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The American Presidency - Showmanship Or Substance?

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There is a big difference between the old school of
nationalism in America and what Trump is peddling in
his isolationist, protectionist, inward-looking, agenda.

Biden is old school. He's of the generation that believed -
America always had a very powerful sense of nationalism.
Their nationalism is very different to other countries.
It's based on the idea that America has values which are not
only unique but should be spread to the rest of the world.
To all of humankind.

With Trump it's a totally different story.

"Donald Trump" does not exist. He is a character
and a symbol who is viewed as being more than a mere
mortal by his "Make America Great Again" (MAGA), cultists."

"In that role, Trump is permission for revenge, craven power,
and permission for them to engage in the worst human behaviour."

"Trump imagines himself in those terms. He's a professional
wrestling heel. A "fighter", a type of god and messiah, a
"billionaire", and Titan of business, "a genius who is never
wrong and has amazing genes, an action hero movie star,
a virile and potent conqueror and seducer of women,
and an idol for men, a reality
TV star and now a warlord and aspiring dictator who is the only
person who can "save America."

"Donald Trump views American politics and his role as a TV
program where he is the star, casting agent and producer."

There's more at:

http://salon.com/2024/06/21/dr-phils-staged-interview-with-donald-is-a-sign-of-the-grim-political-theater-to-come/
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 4 July 2024 11:42:17 AM
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It was always going to be so.

Following the debate debacle, it was, or should have been, obvious that the left's gurus have been lying to their followers for years about the mental and physical state of Biden. Right up to the moment he walked on stage they'd been telling and convincing their flying monkeys that all was well, that Biden was fit and on top of his brief and to not believe the evidence of their own eyes about how decrepit the man had become. And being used to doing what they were told; being used to believing what gumph their gurus feed them they dutifully bought it.

Then boom-crash. The real Biden became too obvious for even the most sycophantic follower to deny.

And they went into a deep funk. But after a few days, they come out of it and are now returning to believing everything they're told by the same gurus who lied to them for years. It was always going to be so.

Read Foxy's Salon link with that in mind.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 4 July 2024 3:51:23 PM
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The type of Trump foreign policy we can expect if by some miracle he wins.

This is a story from 2019 when he was at the helm of US policy. He was negotiating with the Taliban leadership about how he wanted to exit Afghanistan. He was talking through an interpreter. He explained to the Taliban that he would be withdrawing in stages and that he expected them to met specific criteria at each step otherwise the withdrawal would be halted.

Then he addressed the Taliban leader. He said that if even one American soldier was injured during the withdrawal he would kill that Taliban leader. The interpreter hesitated to pass on the message but Trump insisted. The message was passed on.

Then Trump pulled out a piece of paper, handed it to the Taliban leader and walked out of the meeting without another word said.

The paper was an aerial photo of the Taliban leader's home.

No American was killed in Afghanistan for the balance of Trump presidency.

Then Biden took over and the carnage resumed resulting in the abject disaster of the Biden flight from Kabul.

Why didn't Putin do anything in Ukraine while Trump was around? That's why. True leadership as opposed to pretend leadership.
Posted by mhaze, Thursday, 4 July 2024 4:04:05 PM
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Here is a link - from Donald Trump's 2024 election interviews:

http://time.com/6972021/donald-trump-2024-election-interview/

What Trump will do.
Posted by Foxy, Thursday, 4 July 2024 5:47:23 PM
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"What Trump will do."

Sounds pretty good, eh? What's not to like?
Posted by mhaze, Friday, 5 July 2024 8:25:58 AM
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What's not to like?

I guess that depends on your values, and beliefs, and what
you hold dear.
Posted by Foxy, Friday, 5 July 2024 10:14:25 AM
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