SM said, in response to connection of Nazis with Ukraine: " .... there are no Nazis in Ukraine, that is BS made up by Putin to justify his illegal invasion".

SM does know whether there are any Nazis in Ukraine now. Nor do I. But my reference was to the provision of troops and concentration camp guards to Germany during WW11. Putin didn't make that up, and me might still be calling Ukrainians 'Nazis' as the Left all over the world calls anyone who are not Lefties, Nazis.

The fact remains, there were Ukrainians fighting with the Germans against Russia during WW11.

The fact of the matter has been highlighted in the Canadian Parliament by its gormless speaking telling the ex-comdedian Ukraine president who was in the Parliament (probably after more money and arns) that there was a Ukraine-Canadian in the house who fought the Russians, as Ukraine is now, in WW11. He was in the House.

The very elderly man stood and took a bow to applause.

It transpires that the bloke did fight for Germany against Russia (then an ally of ours) as an SS trooper; and we all know how they behaved, mainly executing civilians.

The Speaker made a right fool of himself.

"The fact remains, there were Ukrainians fighting with the Germans against Russia during WW11."

This was the 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS. They weren't front line troops, they were SS and they set about ethically cleansing Poles and Jews, as the Ukrainian nationalists believed in an ethnically pure Ukrainian state.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/14th_Waffen_Grenadier_Division_of_the_SS_(1st_Galician)

"After World War I and the dissolution of Austria-Hungary, the territory of Eastern Galicia (Halychyna), populated by a Ukrainian majority but with a large Polish minority, was incorporated into Poland following the Polish–Ukrainian War. Between the wars, Ukrainians in eastern Galicia were politically represented by the moderate national democrats; a small number supported the more radical Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists. The latter group itself splintered into two factions, the more moderate OUN-M led by Andriy Melnyk (which had ties to German intelligence, Abwehr), and the more radical OUN-B led by Stepan Bandera."

Now that you have that info, read this.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Massacres_of_Poles_in_Volhynia_and_Eastern_Galicia

The massacres of Poles in Volhynia and Eastern Galicia were carried out in German-occupied Poland by the Ukrainian Insurgent Army (UPA) with the support of parts of the local Ukrainian population against the Polish minority in Volhynia, Eastern Galicia, parts of Polesia and Lublin region from 1943 to 1945. The peak of the massacres took place in July and August 1943. The massacres were exceptionally brutal and affected primarily women and children. The UPA's actions resulted in up to 100,000 deaths. Other victims of the massacres included several hundred Jews, Russians, Czechs, Georgians, and Ukrainians who were part of Polish families or opposed the UPA and sabotaged the massacres by hiding Polish escapees."

[Cont.]

"The ethnic cleansing was a Ukrainian attempt to prevent the post-war Polish state from asserting its sovereignty over Ukrainian-majority areas that had been part of the pre-war Polish state. The decision to force the Polish population to leave the areas considered by the Banderite faction of the Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists (OUN-B) to be Ukrainian took place at a meeting of military referents in the autumn of 1942, and it was planned to liquidate the leaders of the Polish community and those who would resist. Local UPA commanders in Volhynia, joining the armed uprising against the Germans, began attacking the Polish population, carrying out massacres in many villages."

You notice the common factor here is Organization of Ukrainian Nationalists led by Stepan Bandera, and the Ukrainian Insurgent Army.

Flag of the Ukrainian Insurgent Army
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Flag_of_the_Ukrainian_Insurgent_Army

Now that you've seen that, take a look at this.
http://www.wsws.org/en/articles/2022/10/15/ckti-o15.html

See the red and black flag (blood and soil) similar to the Ukrainian Insurgent Army flag?
- The flag shown is the flag for Right Sector.
See the portrait of Stepan Bandera on the wall?
See the busts on the desk.

They're not German Nazis, they're Ukrainian ones.

Canada got into an embarrassing situation recently after their parliament had a standing ovation to one of the members 14th Waffen Grenadier Division of the SS, aged 92 to honour Zelensky.
Watch the footage and you'll see him with a closed fist salute to the former SS member.

Canadian Parliament gives WWII Nazi standing ovation
http://youtu.be/d7sFxJbcYvg

Canada parliament speaker resigns after calling Ukrainian Nazi veteran a ‘hero’
http://www.theguardian.com/world/2023/sep/26/anthony-rota-canada-resigns-nazi-parliament

I see now you've already seen that story ttbn.
Yes there are Ukrainian NAZI's
These nationalists are tied in with Right Sector and Sbovoda Party.

You'll see that flag from the office of General Zaluzhnyi (Ukraine’s Commander in Chief of the Armed Forces) shown here
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Right_Sector

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Svoboda_(political_party)

These groups are the opposition the US worked with to oust democratically elected Victor Yanokovych during the 2014 Maidan.
The shooters during the Maidan were members of these groups.

Multicultural Canada’s Dirty Nazi Secret
http://compactmag.com/article/multicultural-canada-s-dirty-nazi-secret

"Vladimir Putin was handed a massive propaganda victory. He can now point to footage of a NATO member’s parliament honoring a Waffen SS veteran as proof of his narrative that Russia is fighting a sacred war against Western-backed Nazis in Ukraine."

ttbn,

That there were Ukrainians that fought with the Nazis to liberate Ukraine from the Soviet Union that had callously murdered millions of Ukrainians 80 years ago is not in dispute. Neither is that far more Ukrainians fought against the Germans than for them. Today, Claiming that Ukraine is full of Nazis is an outright lie as would be claiming that Australia is run by Nazis because there are a few neo-fascists.

The only reason for the Nazi claim to give some legitimacy to the illegal invasion.

"The only reason for the Nazi claim to give some legitimacy to the illegal invasion."

- The invasion already had legitimacy in my book.
Putin told them 15 tears ago, that Ukraine NATO was a red line.
He said he would take Crimea if the West proceeded down this path.

NYET MEANS NYET
http://wikileaks.org/plusd/cables/08MOSCOW265_a.html

1. (C) Summary. Following a muted first reaction to
Ukraine's intent to seek a NATO Membership Action Plan (MAP)
at the Bucharest summit (ref A), Foreign Minister Lavrov and
other senior officials have reiterated strong opposition,
stressing that Russia would view further eastward expansion
as a potential military threat. NATO enlargement,
particularly to Ukraine, remains "an emotional and neuralgic"
issue for Russia, but strategic policy considerations also
underlie strong opposition to NATO membership for Ukraine and
Georgia. In Ukraine, these include fears that the issue
could potentially split the country in two, leading to
violence or even, some claim, civil war, which would force
Russia to decide whether to intervene. Additionally, the GOR
and experts continue to claim that Ukrainian NATO membership
would have a major impact on Russia's defense industry,
Russian-Ukrainian family connections, and bilateral relations
generally.

Russia told them, they knew, the US went ahead and did it anyway on purpose knowing damn well Russia would be forced to react.