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That sinking feeling

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Shadow Minister,

What's happening with Putin's invasion of the
Ukraine it is inevitable that historical references
are going to be made for a better understanding of
the situation.

An understanding of the roles played by Lenin,
Stalin, Hitler, Molotov, Ribbentrop, Rudenko, and other
authors of one of the greatest genocides in history is
essential to the comprehension of the issues which we
are faced with today. War crimes against humanity should
be of concern to us all.

Robert Conquest wrote the book "The Harvest of Sorrow"
on the Ukrainian famine - showing the world how the
USSR policy of mass murder preceded that of Nazi Germany,
most notably with the artificial Ukrainian famine of 1932-33.

There is no dispute about the enormity of HItler's
Holocaust. But it is equally important to be as aware of
the accomplishments of the Soviet regime, which
brought death to at least four times as many people.
Putin is following the behavior of his Soviet
predecessors.

Thank you for raising this topic for discussion.
Posted by Foxy, Monday, 25 September 2023 4:07:43 PM
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Canada's House Speaker apologises for praising Ukrainian who fought for Nazis
https://www.bbc.com/news/world-us-canada-66908958

Looks like Zelensky is quite pleased, seen with smiles and raised fist with the honouring of the former Waffen SS member
Posted by Armchair Critic, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 9:15:37 AM
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Shame on you.

Defending Putin's actions consistently.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 9:51:43 AM
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SM

Your "fact checking" apparently isn't up to answering my question about any polls on the Australian people's support for Ukraine. You say that 65% of Americans support helping Ukraine, but you can't produce figures for our own country - which is more important to us than what Americans think.

Well … Australian support slipped from 52% in 2022 to 37% in 2023, and support in America is waning.

As Greg Copley - that's the bloke you sneered at - said: people are sick and tired of it; they are sick and tired of their money going to the Fourth Reich when they are doing it tough economically themselves; and it's only a matter of time before the West stops helping because "there is no point" in propping up Ukraine, the most corrupt country in Europe.

I'm not excusing Russia - I loathe Communism no matter where it lurks - Moscow, Beijing and, increasingly, Canberra; but I don’t like Nazis either; I don't care what happens between two nasty regimes.

But, China does. And China isn't going to stand back and see Russia go down. Then, what will America do? My feeling is that it won't stand up to China. It hasn't stood up to China since Donald Trump' s presidency.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 9:59:53 AM
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ttbn

"WASHINGTON, June 28 (Reuters) - Solid majorities of Americans support providing weaponry to Ukraine to defend itself against Russia and believe that such aid demonstrates to China and other U.S. rivals a will to protect U.S. interests and allies, according to a Reuters/Ipsos survey.

The two-day poll that was concluded on Tuesday charted a sharp rise in backing for arming Ukraine, with 65% of the respondents approving of the shipments compared with 46% in a May poll."

http://www.reuters.com/world/most-americans-support-us-arming-ukraine-reutersipsos-2023-06-28/

Also, there are no Nazis in Ukraine, that is BS made up by Putin to justify his illegal invasion.

Please show your justification for this BS claim of yours.
Posted by shadowminister, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 11:04:43 AM
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According to the Lowy Institute poll 2023 - The
Sydney Morning Herald, and other sources found on
the web, - Australians strongly support keeping
sanctions on Russia, providing military aid,
admitting Ukrainian refugees into Australia - in
other words they back Ukraine. They see the necessity
to do so.
Posted by Foxy, Tuesday, 26 September 2023 11:13:37 AM
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