SM

Stay calm now. What you say and what I say is not going to make any difference.

I accept 65% of Americans information. I asked you 'what about Australians'.

You did not respond. So, I looked up the information on the Lowey Institute and found, as I have already told you, Australian support slipped from 52% in 2022 to 37% in 2023.

But, you have decided that that is BS, along with my knowledge of the Nazi leanings of Ukraine. Like you rubbished Greg Copley who is the internationally respected author of lots of books. You, on the other hand, are a made-up name on a screen, like me, who posters know nothing about.

Like me, you might be and avid reader of all things political, but you never reference actual books, written by acknowledged doyens. You go for online stuff, including for heaven's sake, Reuters.

I'll stick with the experts. No disrespect to your emotional attachment to the situation.

Shadow Minister,

Here is the Lowy Institute poll figures:

http://poll.lowyinstitute.org/charts/australias-response-war-ukraine/

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The Lowy poll shows that 76% of Australians support Australia sending military support to Ukraine 37% strong support and 39% somewhat support.

The support in Europe etc is still strong, and if there is any hope on the Russian side that the allies will eventually abandon Ukraine it is highly misplaced.

The US and allies are now producing shells etc faster than the Russians and now M1 tanks and ATACMS rockets are being sent followed by F16 fighter planes that outmatch anything the Russians have.

Sanctions are now being applied to companies including Chinese companies that supply equipment to the Russians.

Russia is losing this war.

SM

Well, that's not what I read. Just goes to show you can't believe anyone these days. That's why it's a mistake to rely on the media and Google.

If Russia does lose the war, what do you think will happen after they lose? What will China do? Then, what will the U.S do, and so on? WW111?

I think that that the best scenario is for Russia to win. If China has to step in, it will be goodnight for everyone.

Taiwan is what Australia should be concerned about: in our region, threatened by our enemy.

Watch him play dumb.

Russian manufacturers are making up to 7 times as much ammunition as Western arms makers, Estonian defense official says
http://www.businessinsider.com/russia-ammunition-manufacturing-ukraine-west-officials-2023-9

As Ukraine flies through artillery rounds, U.S. races to keep up
http://www.washingtonpost.com/national-security/2023/08/19/artillery-ammunition-ukraine-pentagon/

"The Biden administration’s sprint to supply Ukraine with weapons central to its military success against Russia has yielded a promising acceleration of arms production, including the standard NATO artillery round, output of which is expected soon to reach double its prewar U.S. rate of 14,000 a month."

"Since February 2022, the Pentagon has concluded $2.26 billion of manufacturing contracts for the 155mm round, helping to increase U.S. output from 14,000 units a month before Russia’s invasion to around 24,000 per month today. Production is slated soon to reach 28,000 a month, with the goal of producing 1 million shells a year by fall 2025. Officials declined to say what share of that would go to Ukraine vs. being held in reserve in the United States."

Europe’s military industrial capabilities fall short of Ukraine’s needs
http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/05/18/europe-weapons-military-industrial-base/
"Last year, the Ukrainian army was blasting through 180,000 artillery shell rounds per month. Before the war, U.S. production stood at 14,500 shells per month, and E.U. production was around the same. The United States has been faster to respond to depleting stockpiles, boosting domestic production to 20,000 rounds a month and investing in new capacity to eventually increase that to 90,000 rounds per month.
But Ukraine is still expending 90,000 to 140,000 rounds a month, according to Watling, while the newly announced E.U. investments in production could take one to two years to come online, despite a call by Thierry Breton, the European commissioner for the internal market, to move into 'war economy mode'."

"Russia is on course to produce 2.5 million artillery shell rounds this year, up from 1.7 million before the war, Watling said."

Do the maths.
Russia is producing 200,000 rounds a month right now (2.5 million per year) and is still ramping up, soon be 3M per year.
The US is hoping to produce 90,000 a month (1 million a year) by Autumn 2025.

This is not Russian propaganda (above), it's Business Insider and the Washington Post.

The Russian artillery advantage means the Ukrainians are taking 8 times as many losses as the Russians.

Putin: No Tangible Results from Ukraine's 'Counteroffensive', Kiev Suffering 71,000 in Losses
http://sputnikglobe.com/20230912/putin-says-there-are-no-results-of-ukraines-counteroffensive-kiev-losses-some-71000-1113303178.html

"According to President Vladimir Putin, Russian forces have destroyed 543 tanks and some 18,000 armored vehicles belonging to the Ukrainian military during the 'counteroffensive'."

71,000 men DEAD in 3 months and absolutely nothing to show for it.
The offensive failed, they've shown they aren't militarily capable of retaking territory.
Meanwhile, Ukraine is taking unsustainable losses, the government is on the verge of collapse if it doesn't get another 20 billion from the US, and there are moves to block this funding.

Rand Paul Issues Issues Stark Warning To Biden, Senate, & House About Ukraine Funding
http://youtu.be/qu0EcL-NK9U

NATO Chief Admits NATO Expansion Was Key to Russian Invasion of Ukraine
http://www.jeffsachs.org/newspaper-articles/nato-chief-admits-expansion-behind-russian-invasion
- It seems he left out the fact of peace negotiations in March and April 2022, where the west deliberately scuttled peace negotiations, sending Boris Johnson in to tell Zelensky the West would support his war as long as it takes.

"The support in Europe etc is still strong, and if there is any hope on the Russian side that the allies will eventually abandon Ukraine it is highly misplaced."

http://responsiblestatecraft.org/2023/07/13/rise-in-german-far-right-reflects-growing-sentiment-against-ukraine-war/

"The AfD’s rise in popularity also suggests that a growing percentage of the population believes that sanctions on Russian energy are hurting Germany’s economic interests. Opinion polls conducted a year ago revealed that half of Germans perceived sanctions were hurting Germany more than Russia.

Support for AfD additionally stems from reluctance to send weapons to Ukraine, since the party is known for being generally critical of the government’s support for the country. Back in January of this year, one poll found that 84 percent of AfD supporters opposed sending German-made Leopard 2 tanks to Ukraine."