PF
You maybe unaware RSPCA and all Animal Welfare organisation were told if they protested live exports around election time they took the chance of loosing their tax decuctions and possibly their NFP status.

Its a matter of record so you are free to access this information.
If you dont know that you know very little about the Government and its position on Animal Welfare groups.


Also just for the record I will address your post a few days ago regarding pale.

We are the petition owners and we work with RSPCA QLD and in conjunction with them in regards to Live Animal Exports.

We have no association with RSPCA National office apart from of course everbody support the Animals but we are QLD not ACT.

WE are not as you put it keepers of RSPCAs petition nor are we volunteers for RSPCA QLD- However happy to acknowledge we work in conjunction with RSPCA QLD in regards to live exports only.

Your were also advised in writing by lawyers that if you continue your lies either on OLO or anywhere else you would be liable for any loss of funding is you make it impossible for our CEO RSPCA QLD to continue our association.
I see you have now chosen to continue down that path of self destruction in your efforts of a vicious attack continued from along time ago.
The, points made clear to you in that letter were not for a years or two Lee they were for life.

I draw your attention to your posts which are flaming.
Which you have also been warned and banned over in the past.
pale will not be responding to posts from you in the future

PALE: At the risk of getting another of your diatribes claiming everyone's picking on you, why can't the individuals posting as PALE simply post their individuals thoughts as individual posters, identified or not? Why is it that you seem so determined to drag PALE's name through a stack of issues unrelated to the purpose for which PALE was formed? Would you like the members of the Grazier's Association (for example) to be commenting on behalf of the organisation about such matters as child custody law? Do you think that would enhance or detract from the public perception of the organisation? Why?

TarynW: I now understand that your main reason for being a PALE member is social, according to your post above. Fine and dandy and I appreciate the fact that you use a handle other than the PALE one to post your views on matters unrelated to animal exports, but I can't for the life of me see what makes you think that suggesting that should be the case for other posters is somehow attacking the right of the individuals within the group to put their views forward or is somehow "controlling". Frankly, what I see from PALE and yourself is a definite attempt to be uncooperative with the mores of this forum and to offend as many as possible for no good reason. How does that enhance the standing and assist the work of PALE? Don't you care about that?

Pale in front of me is yet another print out of your posts, it is standard practice to get it in writing read and re read before entering the consultation rooms.
Can you be unaware of this?
Can you think you DELIBERATE LIES, YOUR SPITE, your dysfunctional splatter goes unnoticed?
Me in charge of a union?unprofessional things?
Surely you are not unaware it is those posting as pale and those posting as supporters who are such?
Symptoms of something else are on display by those very same.
claim after claim is unproven.
The holders of a petition? tell us about it.
Get out and mix a bit it is much needed.
Would you understand it if I told you I have every right to believe something is very wrong with your cell of pale? that if every member of that group right across Australia sat down pale would heal its self?
In this sad excuse for a debate your group has gave much evidence for years to come to those you oppose that not very much you say is worth while.
While I do not share the view that market exists for all meat export or local ,that some live export is going to happen cruelty in that trade must stop.
And pale rightly so highlights that fact.
I am greatly concerned true, about a post here or in the car park thread.
It is by Taryn. and it informs us pale is not the office ,it tells us the office of the group is a word for Islamic rightly killed meat?
can that be true? the group is about exporting meat? do you? no you would not understand the conflict others would see there.
Resolution lies in pale hands, you must understand you fuel the fires with increasing lies.
increasingly lost posts, find you way out of this get help.

I now offer that help, remember before pale elevates me to the head of the ACTU this is a fantasy.
Just what I would do if my task was to settle a workplace dispute, indeed what some one in pale one day must do.
Sirs as we are aware recent discussions have become heated insults have been made.
I do not wish to hide the fact the group I represent has played a part in that.
At this time I extend our sincere regrets and undertake to see no person from our group ever again talks about past issues, that we expect the same from some in your group and feel assured it will be so.
We have swapped our red shirts, no longer will every one wear the same shirt while at work, each of us will be clearly defined and all will understand who is who.
I am sure when representing our group, of which we are justly very proud, we will do so while making it clear who has the right to do so, and who is doing it at that time.
I am pleased that members of your group have continued to inform us they share many of our views.
The past is regrettable our pledge to lay it to rest is forever as I am assured is yours we undertake without reserve to control our team and thank you for pledging to do the same.
Again thanks for this chance to rebuild relationships we must keep in regular contact to keep both our pledges.
May I request those meetings while remaining civil at all time take place in a thread called lets talk?
regards and again thanks, the shirt was in need of a wash in any case.

Wendy, you can threaten and harrass all you like but the truth is that if you ever tried to take legal action against a poster here, you would be laughed out of court!

Dont forget, all your rantings are on record.

Antiseptic Belly, PF
And all other Posters- Graham Young has already commented on this issue.
Please respect the forum rules and consider he has more to do than go through your rants` again`

Pale has not as yet contacted OLO about your refusal to except OLO rules however if it continues will do so.
Here are the rules- And this rubbish has gone on now far too long.

Robert, I don't think we have a rule against many people using the one identity. The rule is against the one person using many identities. I wouldn't let someone else use my identity, but as I understand it Pale’s identity sometimes accidentally gets used by other posters because a number of them use the same computer and may not log-off from their identity each time they finish with the forum.

The result is that sometimes a poster with a separate identity ends up using Antje's because they post without realizing they haven't logged in separately. I've accepted that as a genuine mistake. In fact I've once or twice accidentally done it myself when visiting other OLO readers, but as moderator I have tools to fix the problem as soon as it happens.

I don't think it behoves anyone to criticise others on the forum for ungrammatical sentence construction, or poor spelling. Most of you are an editor's nightmare.

I do think you should all stop insulting each other. Most people who spend a long time on this forum are most likely genuine or they wouldn't spend the time discussing these issues, although this can be, and frequently also is, a sign of eccentricity.

Insults are against the forum rules, and it looks like I am going to have to enforce the rules as this thread appears to be getting out of hand.
Posted by GrahamY, Sunday, 9 September 2007 7:10:19 AM