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Robert~s Tip Stop - Pale defends itself in its fight to stop animal cruelty

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PALE, I don't see anything In Graham's post that suggests that he thinks I'm the one using insults. I've probably gone further than I normally would have but don't believe my posts are characterised by insults or threats.

I've also posted twice the rule that the site has against more than one person using an identity. I've noted that in my opinion it is not really a big issue except that it makes it difficult for the rest of us to identify who we are responding to. For your reference in case you missed it earlier

"registered user or subscriber services are for one user only and you will not let any other person use your User Password or any registered user or subscriber services" http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/display.asp?page=legal

If you are willing to stop your attacks on me I'm quite happy to discontinue this discussion, I think the points that need to be made have been made.

You have made it quite clear that PALE the organisation chooses to accept the risks associated with having personal views posted under it's name without disclaimer or identification of who's views are represented.

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Saturday, 15 September 2007 2:31:12 PM
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I am not a weak man, but I know the value of talking things out, the truth in that if you take the first step to reunite a group it can bring rewards.
Strangely for this bush kid who could not read or write on leaving school I have learned the art of debate, this is not it, the time has come.
Threats continue insults and in my view to repost Grahams words in this thread is so very wrong, to mix those words in another context is nearly evil.
I have no wish ever to try to help pale again, never ever will I offer an olive branch.
Never will have have any trust or any respect for the group posting as pale.
Break forum rules? clearly we would have been called to task long ago if true.
PALE I have a feeling some in the group are not totally in control of their thoughts, that some professional help may be called for.
Evidence shouts at me! this is a back yard group! not trained in the best interests of those it says it protects.
Halal meats? is that how it is spell? can it be good practice that a group based on animal welfare claims its office is headquarters for a meat exporting business?
that claim is made in the pale car park.
Nothing can make me trust pale again, nothing can get me involved in your painful world of imagined hurts and pains.
Graham may act as he wishes I challenge your right to re write his post in another context
I wonder how long we can stop asking the question is it more than eccentricity that drives some pale posters?
Yes the two threads are interesting and will gather many readers but pale sheds followers here like falling rain drops.
While too late for many do you have ANY UNDERSTANDING of the threats you in fact use?
The miss truths?
The outright rudeness?
good by pale.
Posted by Belly, Saturday, 15 September 2007 2:43:56 PM
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Robert

No is nothing in Grahams post to suggest he was referring to yourself and no intention was meant to suggest that.

In fact ” he mentioned you were one of the long term users and more polite posters on OLO
Graham respects you.

. That you take a personal pride and sort of act as a keeper.

He was speaking to all OLO users

I will tell you upfront pale did not complain or ask Graham to intervene.

Pale will of course respond to personal attacks but does not stoop to insults.

Humour`s our response most times.

No disrespectful meant by posting Grahams guidelines.

Just reminding people what they are without bothering him.

If you look down Robert you will see some people never learn.

I think your idea of peace is a good one.
We have made it clear we intend to use OLO as we joined and as we see fit and following OLO rules- End of Story.

I have only one question to ask you- Are you going to continue your community service as a keeper of sorts to OLO?

You opended this thread about pale etc- I hold you just a little responsibly for undoing it.
So how are you going to stop your buddy’s abusive attacks on your thread?

Just read the post below yours Robert. Its disgusting and a clear breach of rules of the OLO forum
I am sure you will say you are not responsibly and fair enough I will take that onboard too.

Belly do you agree with Robert? The way I see things we have three things going for us here- actually four.

A Roberts suggested we abandon this thread and our tip one.

B Belly has promised never to help pale again

* Belly’s found God - `funny as`

Sorry Robert I couldn’t resist.
It’s a joke belly- how about you just take it as such and drop the attitude ok-How about giving OLO some peace and yourself?
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 15 September 2007 4:06:30 PM
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Pale: "Antiseptic Belly, PF
And all other Posters- Graham Young has already commented on this issue.
Please respect the forum rules and consider he has more to do than go through your rants` again`"

Actually, I asked about your view, which is the reason for the site. What is wrong with suggesting that people log in with their own handles to make comments about things that are their own opinion? I do.

Secondly, why can't the posters who use PALE's computer to post simply log in with their own handle?

as i said, this is not about Forum rules, jsut an effort to understand why you people feel so strongly about the subject. Given the "rants" I've seen above the PALE handle, it would be nice to get some straight answers.
Posted by Antiseptic, Saturday, 15 September 2007 6:00:16 PM
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Speaking of posting practises`or Handle’s. Yours is interesting. Nine comments “only” -five or six of those swipes at PALE.
Almost as if somebody had come on just to keep stirring this column and insult.
Why not quit while you’re ahead.
I really don’t wish to bother OLO with it.
Tell you what though, I will answer your question` in part`- call it a back flip of attempted gagging and blacklisting.
you`ll figure it out.
Look after the animals instead of being rather foolis
Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Saturday, 15 September 2007 10:58:39 PM
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Speaking of posting practises`or Handle’s. Yours is interesting. Nine comments “only” -five or six of those swipes at PALE.
Almost as if somebody had come on just to keep stirring this column and insult.
Actually, only one was a "swipe" at PALE, the others were seeking reasoning for the opinion your group offered as to why you should not take what the rest of those here obviously feel is a more honest approach and post individual comments under individual handles. You still have not provided that explanation and despite civil requests from several posters, all you can do in response is offer irrelevancy and vituperation. I certainly don't hide behind a collective handle to post my personal opinions, why should those in PALE? As for insults, my dear, they've been flowing thick and fast from PALE and those associated with it. I became interested in the thread because I am a supporter of PALE's work with live animals, but the behaviour of those who are posting in the group's name has changed that. If a cause is worth becoming activist for, it is worth the full attention and best efforts of those who choose to take it on. Sadly, I can't see how the behaviour of those posting above the PALE handle here is advancing any cause other than ratbaggery. I do hope none of PALE's Government funding is being used to pay for that?
Posted by Antiseptic, Sunday, 16 September 2007 4:42:07 AM
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