Belly
As Robert said he opended these threads to sort out and problems or even aligations of mis use of forum rules `by pale` that is what we are using it for.
You belly were not really the problem and we rather enjoyed your antics. With `respect` we feel you were spurred on and we acknowledge your loyalty to your union and friends.

I think in your case you misunderstood pales posts not understanding why we would be interested in the ALP China etc.
Putting it in its most simply form belly
Your not the person who started the threads against us. Your not our man.
You may have participlated with 'vesto' but you were encouraged I am afraid.
We understand you were angry about our joke regarding shirts but hey belly we are fighting for the animals and this is political and no rules were broken.

Now you say that pale have broken those rules and even at times insulted you.
Let me first say that its not the purpose of pale to insult anybody and certainly not to break forum rules.

WE have asked you many times to paste on Roberts thread these attacks you claim to be made.

We feel you owe it to yourself and Robert who has purposely set up this thread to do so.

You also owe it to us to outline evidence which you have raised repeatly.

If there is something that has been posted which has not been in reponse of course to an outright attack to us you have our word we will apoligise without hestiation .

Antispectic we were not refering to you earlier. Have patience in time all will be revealed.

I am sure also Robert having a community interests will not jump ship now as he opneded these threads he says to improve OLO services.
We will look at threats to contact others for the purpose to damage.

Then Robert we will explain why pale wont be bullied or bought by anybody and why that is so important.

Sorry, PALE, not good enough. Firstly, your comments earlier about "a little man" who has a "problem with women" "flaming", were a personal attack on me. I don't believe your disclaimer. Secondly, you are attempting to obfuscate on two simple questions (3 now), which go to the heart of your organisation's purpose. Frankly, I'm not interested in your silly games, I just want a simple set of answers to some simple questions. You obviously feel that you are justified in your decision to post collectively, but you can't offer a reason: perhaps you should examine your position?

On the subject of appropriate use of tax-exempt supplies: I have a business that has some tax-liable and some tax-exempt supplies. I have been audited to check compliance with the rules and to ensure I don't abuse the system to fail to pay tax on items that attract it. Has PALE been similarly audited and did the use of office equipment and telecommunications services form part of the audit?

As I said earlier, I am a supporter of PALE's cause, but so far, what
I've seen here doesn't give me the slightest confidence that PALE is actually anything other than a social club and a vehicle for self-promotion of the founder and her businesses. Feel free to prove me wrong.

Antiseptic

I am trying to work out your questions.

Please post these in order.

thank you

For Tapp:

These are the questions I posted above

"1. What is wrong with individuals who happen to be PALE members posting their individual opinions using individual handles?
2. Does PALE consider the poorly-expressed posts on unrelated topics enhance its cause to protect animals from maltreatment during live exports? Why?

I have another:
3. Why is PALE unable to exercise control of their own computer equipment to prevent people using it for purposes unrelated to PALE's purpose, such as single parenting and gender politics?"

I think you'll agree they're very simple questions.

Now one will have to ask Graham Young the answer to this as it is he who has made the account for pale and the reasoning behind that goes to him.

I would also look at the fact that i would have thought that there would have been questions regarding animal welfare, keeping jobs in australia.

But hey what does labor and liberals really care about this.

That is all i can say as the truth is no longer a possibility for me to post without someone complaining about the facts.

Stuart Ulrich
Independent Candidate for Charlton