mhaze,

You have a dopes understanding of the reality.

"Parties can suggest how their supporters direct preferences but they can't determine it." That is correct, ONE NATION with their HTV's invariably SUGGEST their supporters direct their preferences to the LIBERAL PARTY.

I said; "One Nation is ultimately a vote for the Liberal Party, as One Nation directs preference to the Liberals", on their HTV's. Well, when "scrutineering" votes on election nights I have observed ON votes, the majority when distributed end up in the Liberal pile. If I was a Labor candidate in a close contest I'd be worried if I was relying on ON preferences to get me over the line.

Yes, NSW for some years has had optional preferential voting.

"uninvited and unwanted" so you say mhaze, you don't know that, you are saying so to defend Deeming someone alerted the Nazi's to the rally. BTW hasn't Deeming got form concerning far right extremism. Didn't Guy have to defend her on that score before the last state election?

You say; "They might be the Liberal Party but they definitely aren't a liberal party." You have said the National Socialists are Socialists, just like those Liberals who are not liberal, they may use the word Socialists, but I say they are definitely not socialists

The police let the amateur Nazis through. Well, the Andrews police acted like Nazis during the Covid protests.

As for Moira Deeming: the Liberal Party would be doing her a favour if they expelled her. She would have four years as an independent to build voter support. And, who the hell wants to be in the Liberal Party these days! The parties thinking and acting like the Liberals used to would be glad to have her, I would think. One Nation, Liberal Democrats, Family First.

ttbn,

One Nation, Liberal Democrats, Family First. you left off Palmer's UAP then you'd have all 4 of the far right parties in Australia. Deeping -independent - how would she be "independent", these far right authoritarians don't allow for independent thinking.

BTW, I read some time back that the High Court has ordered the so called Liberal Democrats to change their name, as they are neither liberal or democratic.

Kirsty O’Sullivan a LDP staffer alleged there was corruption and misuse of party funds, sounds like your kinda party!

Well that wasn't to hard. Paul's gone from "A vote for One Nation is ultimately a vote for the Liberal Party", ( a patently false assertion) to his now much more accurate observation that most One Nation preferences go to the Libs. Not the same thing at all and so obvious that even the normally clueless Paul seems to understand it.

BTW most Green preferences go to the ALP so, according to Paul that means that a vote for the Greens is a vote for the ALP.

But Paul is capable of learning. For example he has learned from SR, where you start a post with some ad hom and then proceed to show that the ad hom was rubbish. Here he tells me that ! "have a dopes understanding of the reality" and then in the very next paragraph (the very NEXT paragraph) admits that "[what you wrote]That is correct". Logic and Paul are not friends.

Another of Paul's illogical assertions "just like those Liberals who are not liberal, [National Socialists] may use the word Socialists, but I say they are definitely not socialists"

The Vic Liberals aren't liberally because they act illiberally. The NSDAP were socialist because they acted socialistically. I won't explain further - Paul wouldn't follow.

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You don't have to prove that you are a twit all the time. We have always known it. The parties are 'far right' to you only because the Greens are far left - a modern version of communism.

That's why I called him OLO's village idiot.