I think Paul's logic leads us inexorably to the conclusion that we must refuse any more support for Ukraine, because, afterall, they have real Nazis there, not just the neo type.

And while we're at it, let's ban the wearing of Chez t-shirts and Mao caps. Equity and diversity dictate we shouldn't concentrate on blue-eyed types alone.

BTW, I took a picture in my local bookstore. It had a copy of Mein Kampf. I propose that the state confiscate all its copies and burn them in a public place.

We can't take the risk that people might actually believe what they read and march along with what they see, because they are not as wise as those of us who frequent this forum, or run Australian state governments, and will be sure to be taken in.

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"I think Paul's logic leads us inexorably to the conclusion that we must refuse any more support for Ukraine, because, afterall, they have real Nazis there, not just the neo type."

Where have I said in my opening post I support the banning of the Nazi salute in public or the public display of the Nazi swastika?

I did pose the question;

Should far right extremest groups be designated "terrorist organisations" and therefore outlawed?

I did not offer any agreement or disagreement with the question, so where is the "Paul's logic".

As for Ukrainians and Nazi's, I did read on this site that during WWII some Ukrainians were Nazi concentration camp guards. As for the political control in Ukraine today, I'm not sure if they are real Nazi's, Neo-Nazi's or something else. I have never siad anything about the Ukrainian government. I want an end to the war and peace restored., seems that's a bit too much for some forum warmongers

The Nazi swastika and the symbol used in eastern religions are oriented differently.

https://www.bbc.com/culture/article/20210816-the-ancient-symbol-that-was-hijacked-by-evil

"Hindu cultural organisations and religious groups have tried to explain that the Nazis did not use the swastika, but a hooked cross. The Nazi swastika has the arms turned to 45 degrees giving a slant to the symbol, whereas the swastikas of Hinduism are presented with the base arm lying flat."

"Even members of the Jewish community have highlighted on several occasions the way in which the sign has been misused. "A distorted version of this sacred symbol was misappropriated by the Third Reich in Germany, and abused as an emblem under which heinous crimes were perpetrated against humanity, particularly the Jewish people. The participants recognise that this symbol is, and has been, sacred to Hindus for millennia before its misappropriation," said the declaration made at the Second Hindu Jewish Leadership Summit in Jerusalem held in February 2008."

In Syracuse, NY where I was born a man had the Hindu symbol bricked into his chimney. He had to have his chimney rebricked because the symbol was mistaken for the Nazi symbol.

Transgender rights protesters and Neo-Nazi's
I have great trouble to decide as to which of these two groups do the greater harm to society.
The latter would get stopped in a flash if they had parades like the other mob !

I'm in favour of these hard right thugs openly parading around the streets dressed in black uniforms with their swastikas, giving Nazi style 'sieg heil' salutes for all to see. These ratbags are closely aligned with the hard right political party One Nation, they both have a similar style philosophy, One Nation seeks the endorsement of centre right moderate voters, claiming they are an acceptable alternative to the mainstream. Its not uncommon for these Nazi ratbags to infiltrate a right leaning forum like this, and advise readers to vote One Nation and similar, at the next election!

Why would you ban Nazi expressions and symbols? Bans in Europe were an acknowledgement of the effectiveness of Nazi propaganda, with its effects persisting long after the regime had fallen. Australia has not had a Nazi dictatorship or control of its media by Nazi propagandists, so I don't really see the point of bans here.

Perhaps the most useful lesson of Nazism is the idiocy and debasement of hunting down and eliminating "non-conformists", be they critics of renewable energy or vaccination, or even supporters of Russia or George Pell. Thinking a person your enemy because they saw the world differently was very much the Nazi ethos.