Why is America, oh! and Ukraine, so opposed to China's 12 point peace plan for the country?

http://www.fmprc.gov.cn/mfa_eng/zxxx_662805/202302/t20230224_11030713.html

President Putin met Chinese President Xi Jinping on Tuesday in Moscow to discuss the war and the peace plan. Why doesn't Ukrainian President Zelenskyy also meet with President Xi and discuss the proposed Chinese plan?

Ditto repeato: the Yanks and most of the West are keeping the war going in the hope that there will be a regime change in Russia. Now Sunak.

To ginger things up without being outright aggressive, the US swung a drone close to the area, then a couple of B52s.

If they keep supplying Ukraine the way they are, Beijing has said in the last few days that they will supply Russia.

If the West is not careful, it will get the World War that it thinks it can avoid when one of the lunatics involved suddenly snaps.

Paul,

Only an idiot or a fanboy of the war criminal Putin would miss that the terms hugely favour Russia in that Russia would keep all of Ukraine that it had invaded and would suffer no punishment whatsoever.

Point 1 is "Respecting the sovereignty of all countries" but the rest of this peace proposal trashes this.

Ukraine wishes to continue until Russia relinquishes its occupation of all of Ukraine and the west intends to support them to do this.

Hi shadowminister,
"Only an idiot or a fanboy of the war criminal Putin would miss that the terms hugely favour Russia in that Russia would keep all of Ukraine that it had invaded and would suffer no punishment whatsoever."

Actually, China really does want peace as their Belt and Road Project is to go through Ukraine, but China's also playing hardball with the US. If the US keeps loading Taiwan with weapons, then China will provide weapons to Russia, and Russia in return will support China with Taiwan.

"Point 1 is 'Respecting the sovereignty of all countries' but the rest of this peace proposal trashes this."

China has changed it's official foreign policy stance.
Old Position = Respect the sovereignty, independence and territorial integrity of all countries
New Position = Respect legitimate security concerns of all countries"

- This is aligns both Russia and China's security interests in Ukraine and Taiwan, it's outlined in the video below.

West alarmed as Xi tweaks China's position on war; Putin-Jinping hold marathon talks | Watch
http://youtu.be/4qkwCVQPaMo

"Ukraine wishes to continue until Russia relinquishes its occupation of all of Ukraine and the west intends to support them to do this."

The West does not have a solution to oust Putin nor do they have a solution to take back the Russian held territory or Crimea, their next counter-offensive is do or die. They don't really have enough troops, weapons or ammunition to defend Bakhmut and conduct their upcoming counter offensive.

- And I told you China would provide military support before it lets Russia lose, they need each other.
- But China really does want peace, not war.

SM,

Again, if China has offered a starting point for piece negotiations, why wont America, sorry Ukraine, take the opportunity for such a negotiated settlement?

Where is the "American Peace Plan"? I'll tell you, it doesn't exist, as the United States is the world biggest warmonger, and they have demonstrated that time and time again.

Thanks AC, you're the only one here with a real understanding of the situation, SM is blinded by his sycophantic love of America.

Paul and AC

Oh Russia. Such a peaceful country with a very fair and reasonable president. They didn't want to send the army into Ukraine. They didn't want to level countless cities and villages, murder and deport Ukrainians by the tens of thousands. They had no desire to destroy Ukraine's infrastructure, leaving the people cold and miserable. And now all Russia wishes is to leave its kind and protective army in occupied Ukraine and negotiate a reasonable and long lasting peace. Such a lovely place Russia:

https://www.bbc.com/news/world-europe-65015289

Now I know what you will say, something along the lines of it being propaganda of the great Satan, and such things happen all the time in puppet countries like Australia, but the biased media covers it all up so plebs like us never hear of it.

I think Putin and his cronies a disaster for for the world, especially Russia, and Ukraine would sooner negotiate a meaningful peace with Nazi Germany than with Putin's Russia.