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The latest rumour on Ukraine is that the US wants the conflict to continue until there is a regime change in Russia.
Posted by ttbn, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 10:12:14 AM
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AC,

China will not lose because other than supportive words it won't get involved. Its economy is too fragile to risk EU and US sanctions which make up nearly half its exports by volume.

Russia is certainly not winning. It is losing equipment at more than 5x the pace it can replace them, and it is not replacing the aircraft or helicopters it has lost, nor the ships. The much-vaunted Russian attack has gained a few 10s of square km at a vast cost. In the south vast attacks have gained the Russians not one inch and left the battlefield littered with destroyed tanks and BMPs and hundreds of dead Russian soldiers.

Ukraine has special units with infrared cameras that are hunting tanks at night and sleeping Russians. Their modified Chinese drones just destroyed a Russian supply train in Crimea.

The Russian army is getting weaker and weaker and at some point, will simply collapse.
Posted by shadowminister, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 5:54:09 PM
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Hey ttbn,
"The latest rumour on Ukraine is that the US wants the conflict to continue until there is a regime change in Russia."
- Yes, John Kirby came out and said that the US won't allow Zelensky to accept any peace plans proposed by the Chinese delegation in Moscow this week.
Also China's said that if Kiev refuses the peace plan that they'll start sending arms to Russia to use in Ukraine.
China's putting it's foot down and trying to force peace negotiations, the US opposes it but it makes them clearly look like the party who wants the war to continue
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 7:27:46 PM
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Hey shadowminister,
"The Russian army is getting weaker and weaker and at some point, will simply collapse."
- I told you a long time ago, it's all just a narrative.

"The Russian army is getting weaker and weaker and at some point, will simply collapse."

http://www.washingtonpost.com/world/2023/03/13/ukraine-casualties-pessimism-ammunition-shortage/
Ukraine short of skilled troops and munitions as losses, pessimism grow

>>Statistics aside, an influx of inexperienced draftees, brought in to plug the losses, has changed the profile of the Ukrainian force, which is also suffering from basic shortages of ammunition, including artillery shells and mortar bombs, according to military personnel in the field.

“The most valuable thing in war is combat experience,” said a battalion commander in the 46th Air Assault Brigade, who is being identified only by his call sign, Kupol, in keeping with Ukrainian military protocol. “A soldier who has survived six months of combat and a soldier who came from a firing range are two different soldiers. It’s heaven and earth.”

“And there are only a few soldiers with combat experience,” Kupol added. “Unfortunately, they are all already dead or wounded.”<<

And don't bother with that numbers on the Russian side, it's not the number the Russian Ministry of Defense gives. Most of the dead and wounded on the Russian side are probably Wagner PMC not regular Russian troops. They're only giving that number out for Ukrainian troop morale and so that Pro-Western Russians will use it in Russia to try and start protests and civil unrest.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 22 March 2023 7:28:01 PM
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AC,

From the same article:

"The situation on the battlefield now may not reflect a full picture of Ukraine’s forces, because Kyiv is training troops for the coming counteroffensive separately and deliberately holding them back from current fighting, including the defense of Bakhmut, a U.S. official said, speaking on the condition of anonymity to be candid... And the situation for Russia may be worse. During a NATO meeting last month, U.K. Defense Minister Ben Wallace said that 97 per cent of Russia’s army was already deployed in Ukraine and that Moscow was suffering “First World War levels of attrition.”

Andriy Yermak, head of Ukraine’s presidential office, said the state of the Ukrainian force does not diminish his optimism about a coming counteroffensive. “I don’t think we’ve exhausted our potential,” Yermak said. “I think that in any war, there comes a time when you have to prepare new personnel, which is what is happening right now.”

The EU has put contracts in place to supply Ukraine with a million 155mm shells this year on top of what the US, Canada and the UK are providing as well as HIMARS extended range ammunition (150km) Excalibur artillery shells, 70km extended range guided 1000kg bombs,
HARM (S400 destroyers) missiles and harpoon anti-ship missiles.

Russia has been committing all its best forces and tanks to the offensive and as a result, have been losing nearly 1000 men a day and about tanks a day. In Jan they started with 1800 tanks and have lost more 300 with about 30 replacements.

At this rate Russia's tank force will be ineffective in 6 months when Ukraine will have about new tanks.
Posted by shadowminister, Thursday, 23 March 2023 12:12:01 PM
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Rishi Sunak is sending depleted Uranium rounds to Ukraine.
So now they are going to poison the land they're claiming to be defending.
The people on the Russian held territory are going to face years of cancers and birth deformities.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Thursday, 23 March 2023 4:44:17 PM
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