Hey mhaze,
I don't support western sponsored coups
How many freaking times must I say it?

Also that means by that extension, I don't support the kiev regime
- which NAZI in it's leanings and a product of an American imperialist agenda.

I do support Putin when he tried to avoid all this mess 15years ago.
- Stating his opposition to NATO expansion in Ukraine and Georgia.
I support him taking back Crimea which he said he would do if Ukraine was at risk of joining NATO.
I support the right of ethnic Russians in Crimea to decide if they want independence from the US installed Kiev regime, and I support their right to align with Russia if they so choose.
I support Putin entering into the Minsk agreements in 2014 / 2015 which was an 'internal right to self determination' and an attempt for peace.
- But the Kiev regime kept bombing them.
And so I believe the Kiev regime in doing this lost all right to rule over these people.
- And I support their next move for independence 'external right to self determination' and their right to align with Russia if they choose.
And I support Putin's actions invading the country, in line with 'collective right to self defense' which the US has used and set the precedent for in Serbia and Kosovo.
But I oppose all this unnecessary bloodshed, and think human lives are more important than the US and Kiev regimes military objectives.

Regards Hillary, maybe you should go and talk to CM about the book he just read, Hillary will do whatever for money and power, but her job was to continue the Ukrainian adventure against Putin.
- Remember the Christopher Steele dossier that was released?
That was to drive a wedge between Trump and Putin, to keep the agenda she was supposed to continue on track.
Her job was to take down Putin and Trump set all their neoconservative plans back. And that's why Vicky Nuland is number 3 in the State Department under Biden.

"So you're completely opposed to lines on a map that cause war and want new lines except that when I point out the illogicality of that, you decide that you don't want new lines drawn. That corner you're painting yourself into is getting smaller."

I want peace and a new collective security agreement between Russia and Europe.
WWIII is a really really bad idea.

What do you want?

Hi AC,

You want peace! According to some on here only Communists and nut jobs want peace. I said I wanted peace, but they said I was a commie nut job for wanting something so ridiculous. Anyway, war is such fun, you get to sit in your air conditioned office in Washington or Moscow, besides ordering pizza, you get to order others to go kill the bad guys. Just such FUN! Better than playing 'Warcraft' on the PC.

mhaze wants peace, he'll get it by killing all those bad guys on the other side with war. When they've all been exterminated he's got peace, no one left to kill, unless you want to kill a few of your own side, collateral damage and all that, its all very simple and peaceful. Get on board mate, Warmongers Incorporated, they looking for new members everyday. You can book your one way ticket to Ukraine through 'Murderers Travel' 10% off for those who book early.

I don't know why the OLO Platoon hasn't been dispatched to Ukraine to clean up those pesky Ruskies before now, Shonky, Hassy, Indy, mhaze, Jose', ttbn and the Kudos Kid. I suppose they're all busy at home preparing to take in that million Ukrainian refo's they're helping create. SM swept out the dog kennel this morning in anticipation of a dozen arrivals, they'll need somewhere to sleep at his house. The chook pens full of Uyghurs already, no room there.

"I don't know why the OLO Platoon hasn't been dispatched to Ukraine to clean up those pesky Ruskies before now.."

- I don't want them or anyone fed into the 'meatgrinder'.
War is such a horrible thing, no-one really wins.

This whole thing is the fault of the US for engaging in coloured revolutions and for trying to engineer overthrows for its own interests
(How is any of that truly supportive of their own democratic ideals?)

- And that's why I oppose such things.

Wars have nearly always started when so-called Democratic politicians think themselves into believing they're right in dictating to others & stiiring them up.
As I said before "taunt, taunt, taunt-whack ! Instantly, the retaliator is branded aggressor ! (by the hypocritical do-gooders)

Yes AC I get that you've accepted (fallen for?) all the Russian talking points. But I haven't.

You go on as though all this was just forced on a reluctant Russia who innocently tried to avoid war until they had no options. But the fact is they had plenty of options, the most obvious of which is to not invade another country.

Russia was perfectly happy to allow the status quo to hold so long as they controlled the Kiev government. But when Ukraine started out on another path, seeing that their future was with the successful Europe, not the decrepit Russia, then Putin saw a further diminution in perceived Russia prestige and sought to change the situation on the ground.

I appreciate that you've fallen for the Russian propaganda claims that the change in Ukrainian policy was really a US coup but one has to be totally accepting of all Russian lies to believe that. Even if the US was involved in the overthrow of Yanukovych, it was more a case of them supporting the popular uprising as against them fermenting that uprising. But you won't understand that.

I note that you are constantly claiming that others have to abide by all agreements even as Russia breaks each. In 1994 Russia caused Ukraine to denuclearise militarily by guaranteeing the integrity of its boarder which include Crimea. But you happily ignore that. For the dedicated Russian apologist, everyone has to abide by all agreements signed with Russia....except Russia.

You claim to be opposed to the war even as you cheer Russia's (few) successes and pine for more. You aren't opposed to the war, just opposed to anyone opposing Putin. That's not the same thing.