So Indy,

This crud Canem Malum can call me a communist, compare me to Stalin and Trotsky, say I support disgusting imprisonment and torture of the innocent Solzhenitsyn in a gulag. AND you say I shouldn't send him up!

You're as stupid as he is.

AC wrote: "But more innocent people will die for lines on a map, and I can't support that in good conscience."

So your solution to this war about "lines on a map" is to draw different "lines on a map"!! I'm sure you think you've thought this through, but you'd be wrong.

Even a rudimentary historic understanding of international affairs over the centuries shows that failing to oppose aggression simply leads to more aggression. Abjectly giving an aggressor what they demand, simply leads to more demands. You should try to obtain that rudimentary historic understanding.

"You seem to be supportive of Ukrainian nationalist NAZI's of Right Sector and Svoboda, "

Well I've not said a word that would support that notion. When you need to make things up to try to win some points, you've already lost.
Still, it's interesting that you've fallen for the Russian propaganda about Ukrainians being Nazis.

"Trump was far more friendly to Putin than Hillary would've been."

Hilary was instrumental in giving 20% of the US Uranium stock to Putin. Hilary was instrumental in helping Putin ally Iran to evade sanctions and receive cash to further their jihad. Hilary was part of the administration that promised Putin more 'flexibility' in their approach to Russia after those pesky elections were over. Hilary was part of the administration that sat back and let Putin take Crimea. Hilary was part of the administration that encouraged Europe to accept Russia pipelines.
There's that lack of rudimentary historic understanding again.

I shouldn't send him up!
Paul1405,
I'm sure that were you to actually able prove CM wrong he'd accept that going by the dignity he has shown throughout being here.
You on the other hand so very opportunistically resort to unwarranted snide & vindictive come-backs hence my pleading with you cease them.
I think everyone here would agree that you're not a silly person on the contrary. Your problem appears to be something that not even you it is !

Hi mhaze,
"So your solution to this war about "lines on a map" is to draw different "lines on a map"!!"

Well, the new lines on the map have already been drawn Mr democracy.
Russia takes Donetsk, Luhansk, Zaporizhzhia and Kherson regions by vote as well as Crimea which voted to join Russia 8 years ago.
I'd settle for an end of the war today based on the current lines of contact if it would stop the bloodshed.
- But what I think doesn't matter because stopping now would only result in further conflict later.

There can be no negotiated settlement, firstly because the West won't allow it, and secondly because the collective the West has shown it had no intention of honouring the Minsk agreements and Russia no longer trusts them at their word.

Russia will continue until it takes all the ethnically Russian areas (draw a line from Kharkiv to Odessa) and as much more to as it needs as a buffer to keep these people safe from long range weapons.

"Well I've not said a word that would support that notion."
If you support Ukraine you support the Banderites.
- And you either support the Banderites or you don't support the Banderites,
It's like binary, ones and zeros - it's one or the other there's nothing in between.

http://www.wsws.org/asset/01c03054-efc0-4f9d-9301-c4dd1851f75b?rendition=image1280
Picture: General Zaluzhnyi with soldiers in an office, decorated with busts and portraits of Stepan Bandera and other Ukrainian fascists.
Russian propaganda? yeah well that's code for an 'incovenient truth'
So have you signed up to Azov yet?

Hillary...
http://time.com/30078/hillary-clinton-vladimir-putin-crimea-2016/
Her job was to take on Putin herself, but Trump won instead and set their entire plan back.
- And what the hell does a gas supply deal between Russia and Germany have to do with anyone else?
Please explain that.

I've opposed the US sponsored coup in Ukraine since 2014.
They created this mess, and I haven't changed my views.

Indy,

That old rubbish, I call you a turd, now prove me wrong! No, the burden of proof is on me to prove you are a turd. You say; "I'm sure that were you to actually able prove CM wrong he'd accept that." Why should I give a stuff about what this crud claims about me, I have to prove nothing, why don't you ask the crud to prove his accusations are true.

The onus of proof always lays with the accuser, not the accursed.

'crud' Lol
- I haven't heard that one in ages