Hey shadowminister,
"In 2014 the Donbas and Luhansk regions were still minority Russian-populated districts. The uprising fomented by Russia would have gone nowhere had Russia not sent in its military."

- That's not true, and I'll prove it.

The maps tell the story, go look at the 'Ethnic Breakdown of Ukraine'
http://youtu.be/JrMiSQAGOS4?t=369
- You see there?
Draw a line from Kharkiv to Odessa and everything east of that line including those cities is predominantly Russian-speaking people.
- This includes Zaporozhye, Dnipro, and Kremenchuk.

Now watch the first minute of this video:
It's Lavrov talking about those same Russian - speaking people being denied use of the Russian language.
http://youtu.be/q_nKD4jdPpY

"We defended the Russian people who had been denied by President Zelensky the right to use the Russian language in education, media and culture, - in everything - if you check the Ukrainian legislation passed after the coup brought to power this new NAZI regime they legally canceled everything that had to do with the Russian language and when the people who did not accept the coup in the east of Ukraine and in Crimea said 'guys leave us alone we are not going to to follow your policies' they were declared terrorists and that is the regime who started the war against these people, That's why the Minsk agreements were considered the way to stop this."

Are you saying the maps are wrong?
Are you saying Lavrov is lying about changes to the Ukrainian constitution?

All you people blindly supporting the Ukrainian side
HAVE BEEN SOLD A FALSE NARRATIVE

"The missile that brought down the airliner was fired from well within the Russian-occupied areas. There is no doubt as to who fired the missile, all that remains is why."

Were you there?
Did you know the people who fired the missile personally?
Do you have inside knowledge none of us have?
- You don't know for certain, and nor do I.

"The Russian lines will collapse the question is when."
- Russia has a few hundred thousand men from partial mobilization which have yet to be committed to the battle.

Hey mhaze,
"The CCP is saying one thing and doing another."
- Perhaps, it's certainly possible.

But we can't stop or catch their growth or their lead in STEM Phd fields.
So what do you suggest we do about that?
Nuke them? Blow 'em up? To keep them down?
- Send 'em back to the stone age?

Why should we stop them from reaching whatever god given potential they have is?
As long as they don't harm us and we can stand up and defend our 'AUSTRALIAN' interests, - which stops at our borders, then 1/ what'
s the problem exactly? and 2/ what does what they do in their own backyard have to do with us?

WE can say hey, treat the people of Tibet and Xinjiang nicely please, but is it really our business to go in there and stir up strife, like the US is doing in Georgia right now?

Do you really want to side with a group that like to stir up shite in other peoples countries, getting people killed, just because it can for and for the sake of it's own national security interests (technically anywhere on the globe)

"The CCP claims it wants a world that "rejects interference in other countries' internal affairs." You've fallen for that."
- Maybe, but I know for ABSOLUTE FREAKING CERTAIN that the US has no qualms whatsoever IN DOING EXACTLY THAT.

Struth AC,

Talking to you is like trying to hold rancid custard. Because there's no substance to it, it just pours through the fingers and down the drain.

You approvingly quote the CCP claiming to want a world that " rejects interference in other countries' internal affairs." I point out that the CCP is acting completely contrary to this purported aim. And your response? You agree but then (1) wonder what I propose to do about it and (2) start another anti-US rant that they also interfere with other countries.

How about we start with you admitting that when you approvingly quoted the CCP you were talking through that well used hat of yours. Are you capable of doing that? No?

Does the US interfere in other nation's affairs? Yes. And you rant about it all day. Does the CCP interfere in other nation's affairs. Yes. And you run and hide from that all day.

If you had any of that rudimentary historic understanding that I mentioned, you'd know that great powers have been interfering in other nation's affairs ever since there were great powers. And like the CCP they've been denying it. And like you, there have been dills who willingly fall for those denials.

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As to the Donbass, US interference in the 2014 elections in Ukraine does not justify Russian interference in the Donbass ever since. And even if it did, it doesn't prove that the inhabitants of the Donbass want out of Ukraine. That's just Russian propaganda which you, of coarse, have blindly accepted as per usual.

Being Russian speaking doesn't mean these people want to be part of Russia. And even if it did, it doesn't justify redrawing borders. There are Russian speakers in the Baltic states - redraw the map there? There are German speakers in Austria and Alsace-Lorraine, redraw the borders there? Its just more tripe put out by the Russian apologists which dupes such as AC blindly accept.

The Ukraine is a perfect example of the result of multiculturalism at work, but of course the Labor government want to bring in here over 200,000 ethnics to help us towards such a future.

AC,

Thanks for showing that the only area in 2016 that had an ethnic majority of Russians was Crimea which was flooded with people from Russia after the illegal invasion of Crimea. In 1990 Crimea voted overwhelmingly to leave the Soviet Union and Russia.

The whole of Ukraine incl Crimea must be returned to Ukraine and the illegal Russian immigrants repatriated.

Hey mhaze,
Look, I don't know all the exact details of what's going on in Tibet
If I did I'd be in a better position to comment on it.

But I suspect that if I looked up National Endowment for Democracy funding for dissident groups in Tibet I bet I'd find something.
You'd probably find that if the West wasn't meddling to deliberately stir things up, that everyone would be getting along just fine.

Here you go, what did I just say?
http://www.google.com/search?client=firefox-b-d&q=National+emdownment+for+Democracy+Tibet

"Being Russian speaking doesn't mean these people want to be part of Russia."

Helloooo Charter boat?

Tell me mate if the CCP installed a puppet government in Australia and banned english, would you or would you not be jumping up and down screaming your head off that your rights were being trampled on?

Ching chong ching chang chau.
You bet you'd be whinging about the CCP's sponsored regime's new rules and wanting to get autonomy or independence from the newly installed CCP Australian puppet government.
- I definitely would be, I don't speak mandarin.

I seriously can't comprehend wtf you people think sometimes...

"And even if it did, it doesn't justify redrawing borders."

First Putin tried to support 'internal right to self determination'
- Minsk
This 'automomy' would've fixed the problem - Kiev's response - bomb them more
So now you got calls for independence to protect human rights, which is 'external right to self determination' and 'collective self defence by Russia, a UN member state. All legit mate.