Paul loves virtue signalling because it is the best way to cover up his cluelessness.

Yes, Russia withdrawing from Ukraine can stop the war so start shouting instead of mumbling platitudes like a moron.

Again the term "moron" is freely used by an extreme far right poster, no doubt he will be given his usual site impunity from the "moderator".

mhaze, you give a so called example of Soviet involvement in supporting the peace movement, something that can't be substantiated as the only source was the American CIA, with their "opening of the archives" I say BS, and there are no independent sources for what you claim. But you stick with the fabrication, it suits your hard right war philosophy.

Pauliar,

I didn't call you a moron, I said that you talk like one which is the truth.

You call me extreme right-wing because I call out your lies. However, I am against racism while you promote it which makes you more right-wing than me in some regards.

The easiest way to stop a war is to make the cost to the aggressor unbearable. Nuclear subs armed with torpedoes and cruise missiles can do that in a way that a few batteries with anti-ship missiles along our 40 000km long coastlines cannot.

You virtue signal that you want peace as if no one else does. Russia is clearly the aggressor and does not want peace and is committing every atrocity in the book. It is becoming increasingly clear that peace will not be achieved until Russia's ability to wage war is smashed.

Finally, you and another simpleton are decrying the "rules-based order" as if it were imposed by the US and if there were any viable alternatives. Most of laws did not come from the US and are based on treaties long before the US became the power it is today. The only alternative to order is chaos.

SM,

Most modern wars are the result of US covert operations of destabilisation, Ukraine is no exception. By funding of disaffected groups in foreign countries, the US is able to manipulate events to their advantage. mhaze makes the "shock" allegation that "that the Soviets gave more than $1 billion to US peace movements during the Vietnam War ", the CIA have a budget of over $80 billion per year! Can cause lots of havoc in the world with $80 billion!

And I for one is sick of the hypocritical tish-tosh from the likes of Biden, and now from our own sycophantic politicians with the nonsense about "rules based order". When it suits these warmongers there are no rules, and no order. Where has that old cliche of we are fighting for "freedom and democracy" in that far off land? They are free to be poor, and can democratically elect to die for American imperialism!

Paul claims: "you will not find one word on this thread, or on this site, where I support Russia in this terrible war."

and that's kinda, sorta, true. But all his criticisms are reserved for the US et al. I don't think he understands nor could understand that solely criticising one side is tantamount to supporting the other.

Paul, utterly misunderstanding the written word, thinks that the Soviet archives were somehow opened by the CIA. I'll explain again. Lot's of evidence that the Soviets supported much of the so-called peace movement existed before the fall of the USSR, but, as we see here, the Soviet apologists could always dismiss that evidence, no matter how tight, as being western propaganda. But after the fall of the USSR, the Russian archives were opened to Russian historians who confirmed much of what had been previously said. But mere facts are unacceptable to Paul, even when he understands them.

http://www.historians.org/research-and-publications/perspectives-on-history/march-1994/accessing-the-archives-of-the-former-soviet-union

mhaze

I read your article, very murky stuff, the Russian Archivist, seem they will sell anything you like to the highest bidder, and the CIA have lots of hard cash to bid with. I'm sure these archivist can provide all the "evidence" you want, providing you have the dosh to pay for it. Look, they even have Hitlers skull for sale, all 10 of them! There is not one word mentioning Soviets = Peace Movement = Money. Where is your evidence.

"Last year, an American research center agreed to provide the Communist Party archives with about $25,000"." American research center", what reseach centre, a euphemism for the CIA.