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A Million Or More Refugees From Ukraine And China

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The onus of proof always lays with the accuser, not the accursed.
Paul1405,
Yes and, since you're always the first accuser, start playing more fair !
Posted by Indyvidual, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 9:57:55 PM
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Indyvidual- I don't hold Paul1405 as a pillar of integrity- so I don't care in a sense what he says about me- he is just demonstrating his integrity. People if you listen to them show us who they are- as does Paul1405. It's my hope that others aren't deceived by him. As Hebrew Communist Saul Alinsky in Rules For Radicals- says ridicule is an effective weapon whether it is true or not- but I try to say something constructive too- also hold your enemy to account for their own principles (implies that you shouldn't necessarily hold yourself to yours if you're "a radical"- because the means justifies the ends- and sometimes it does). You can't change Communists (or those that seem to spout Communist propaganda- synonyms and shorthand)- you can only present a different perspective to those listening.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 10:01:49 PM
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Hi Canem Malum
"Saul Alinsky in Rules For Radicals"
Did you know that's Hillary Clinton's mentor?
- She wrote her Wellesley College thesis on him I think.
Posted by Armchair Critic, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 10:12:22 PM
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As far as Azov goes- while not an expert- I see them as patriotic nationalists / localists (rather than globalists). Ironically patriotic nationalists often fight against each other when they should work together against the bigger threat of tabula rasa- blank slate nihilistic communism that wants to destroy all cultures in the name of "conspiratorial elitism". I see Putin as a nationalist in a sense that wants the best for Russia- that supports business and private ownership- of course others will see it differently. As Russia transitions towards western style private ownership and dispenses with the vestiges of communist institutions it will find itself in less conflict with the west and their is less need for conflicts like Ukraine. But the west seemingly is becoming archetypically more communist. In a sense Azov's loyalty to Ukraine seems to trump it's loyalty to nationalist / localist principles and this is why it cooperates with the Ukrainian government- or perhaps it's just a pragmatic move.
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 10:22:36 PM
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Hi AC

"Crud" in the vernacular of Aussie slang means a dirty disgusting piece of work.

Canem Malum, you like to slag me off with jibes that I'm a Communist, Paul the Stalinist, Marxist, now I'm the lover of Trotsky as well, etc. Provide your evidence or shut the up. You try to portray yourself as a nob, when in fact you're a crud.
Posted by Paul1405, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 10:27:14 PM
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Armchair Critic- I thought you were being ironic- but no- and thanks- see below... explains a lot...

http://news.yahoo.com/hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-letters-155526953.html

http://www.huffpost.com/entry/young-hillary-saul-alinsk_b_11402244

http://redstate.com/diary/delawarewindjammer/2012/01/13/obama-hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-and-rules-for-radicals-n199376

http://www.washingtonpost.com/news/the-fix/wp/2016/07/20/hillary-clinton-saul-alinsky-and-lucifer-explained/

http://nonprofitquarterly.org/hillary-clinton-and-saul-alinsky-who-knew/

http://thenewamerican.com/published-letter-from-hillary-clinton-to-saul-alinsky-reveals-close-relationship/
Posted by Canem Malum, Wednesday, 8 March 2023 10:28:23 PM
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