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Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 January 2023 10:28:41 AM
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AC,
Now you're just spouting BS. There were no military bases or equipment anywhere near where the Russian missiles are killing women and children. The BRICs countries are perfectly happy to take money for ammunition from the EU and USA. Russia is without friends. If you believe Russia's claim of only 19k dead then I have a bridge to sell you. The number is closer to 100k dead. Posted by shadowminister, Sunday, 29 January 2023 12:41:43 PM
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"Now you're just spouting BS. There were no military bases or equipment anywhere near where the Russian missiles are killing women and children."
Why don't we go back to earlier in the war and look at this one event. Lets consider the attitude and thoughts of Ukraines political and military leaders. http://www.voanews.com/a/un-russia-and-ukraine-share-blame-for-nursing-home-attack-/6652481.html "Two weeks after Russia invaded Ukraine in February, Russian forces assaulted a nursing home in the eastern region of Luhansk. Dozens of elderly and disabled patients, many of them bedridden, were trapped inside... ...A few days before the attack, Ukrainian soldiers took up positions inside the nursing home, effectively making the building a target. At least 22 of the 71 patients survived the assault, but the exact number of people killed remains unknown, according to the United Nations." What's that tell you? That Ukraine's political and military leadership have no qualms whatsoever taking up positions in a nursing home full of bedridden elderly and handicapped people. - And somehow you find it impossible to believe that after Russia destroyed pretty much all of Ukraine's military bases and can attack ANYWHERE in the country that Ukraine wont place weapons and military assets amongst civilian areas? Don't believe me? Well here's what Amnesty International says: Ukrainian fighting tactics endanger civilians http://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians/ * Military bases set up in residential areas including schools and hospitals * Attacks launched from populated civilian areas Hello... Charter boat... What Charter boat? If you have a bridge to sell you'd be better off keeping it, so you can get over it. You've annoyed me by calling BS to Russian KIA numbers enough to go back through the videos and to find where it's stated, and to supply you with the damn transcript. "The BRICs countries are perfectly happy to take money for ammunition from the EU and USA. Russia is without friends." Really? "Lula refused the transfer, arguing that the Russia shouldn’t be provoked." http://news.yahoo.com/brazil-refuses-germany-tank-shells-003700289.html The West is only a smaller % of global population. More people by actual population side with Russia. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 January 2023 1:58:44 PM
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Going back to the attack on the Nursing Home:
"The report by the U.N.'s Office of the High Commissioner for Human Rights doesn't conclude the Ukrainian soldiers, or the Russian troops committed a war crime. But it said the battle at the nursing home is emblematic of the human rights office's concerns over the potential use of 'human shields' to prevent military operations in certain areas." Ukraine Russia War Latest w. Col. Doug Macgregor Streamed 4 days ago. http://youtu.be/K74GonVNYO4?t=1169 "What is your understanding of the latest numbers of military killed - Ukraine / Russia?" Ukraine - 157,000 Russia - 16 to 25 thousand. Unfortunately this isn't the video detailing how they calculated those numbers, but you're calling BS to what I'm saying, well I'm not the one saying it am I? - And many things you've claimed I've shown is incorrect. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 January 2023 2:33:24 PM
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The war is escalating.
What happens if you get your F-16s? They will have to fly out of NATO bases. What happens if Russia attacks those NATO bases in eastern Europe? - This would trigger NATO article 5 “an armed attack against one or more of them in Europe or North America shall be considered an attack against them all.” At this point you'd see Europeans and Americans sent to Ukraine to fight Russians. - And mass protests in Europe when their loved ones come home in bodybags fighting for a country that isn't even a part of the EU or NATO. (and possibly the US) Attacks on Russia itself would risk further attacks on those countries beyond NATO bases. And Americans fighting Russians in conventional combat could lead to WW3. Slipper Slope. Right now there's no escaping the escalation. Germany couldn't NOT send the tanks. If it refused, then it would get the blame when Ukraine loses, which many of the Europeans now believe to be the eventual outcome. None of them can opt-out. Countdown to WW3 has begun. Posted by Armchair Critic, Sunday, 29 January 2023 3:25:42 PM
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Dear Critic,
«Countdown to WW3 has begun.» What do you mean by "countdown"? We are already in WW3 for a year, at least! Somehow the tendency is to imagine the next war to be like the previous one and wait for the same patterns - but tactics and battles are always different. Like it or not, we are IN this WW3, and you better end on the winning side! Posted by Yuyutsu, Sunday, 29 January 2023 4:06:19 PM
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You're not allowed to put military equipment near civilian areas, thats a war crime.
- And since when does the US care about civilian lives
They call it 'collateral damage' like it's a cost of doing business.
"Why does Germany buy ammunition from Brazil? Perhaps because Brazil has a huge German population..."
- Brazil told Germany to ping ding.
They're a part of BRICS and unwilling to antagonise Russia.
I'm not sure about Joe Bloggs content.
"In 1990 Russia pulled out of Afghanistan when wives and mothers reacted to the 15000 husbands and sons coming back in body bags."
Afghanistan wasn't a specific military threat to Russia, like the US is with it's foreign policy, overthrows and nuclear weapons.
"Though Russia is being careful to hide its casualties, the vast numbers of funerals and soldiers "missing" is not going unnoticed"
- That's how the 19K figure was calculated.
Look at this article, it's like a fishing expedition to catch Russia out not informing people about dead family members.
I'm not even sure what the point of the article even is.
http://www.abc.net.au/news/2023-01-28/russia-ukraine-wagner-group-prisoner-army/101898826
Both sides are planning offensive operations soon
We'll see how it all unfolds I guess.