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The Israeli Diaspora soul-searching : Comments

By Antony Loewenstein, published 15/4/2008

The Jewish establishment fails to understand the shifting sands of the debate.

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marilyn

You have finally exposed yourself with a clearly hate dialogue. You believe only what you want to hear report incorrectly, refuse to respond to any criticisms of your accuracy, anything against your argument you dismiss as Zionist and therefore worthless. You have just insulted Israel, and all the Jews due to your narrow and stupid prejudices.

You are now exposed for what you are. Perhaps the rest of us can forget that you exist and get back to a dialogue which recognises that there are three parties to this sad situation. The Israelis (Arab, Jew, Christian Baha'i etc) who are sick of the conflict and want to enjoy the fruits of their work, those in the Palestinian territories who want opportunities, peace and freedom of religion (allowed to all Israelis) and the Islamic extremists who are spoiling the lives of everyone with their nasty philosophies.

The latter are the ones who are blowing up factories in Gaza meaning that no one will invest there, killing moderates, trying to put women into slavery, and using false arguments to incite their children against Israel. Supported by evil despotic regimes making themselves rich after exploiting their own people they channel huge sums of money into supporting these extremists rather than invest in opportunities for their people.

It is they who were responsible for murdering Australians in Bali (forgotten that Marilyn?). Unfortunately wonderful Muslim people are demonized because this thoroughly evil group claim their actions are in the Name of Allah. If they succeed in removing Israel they won't stop there, if they can put you Marilyn in a Hijab or worse they will.

They control the Gaza strip, which Israel no longer occupies, and are trying to indoctrinate the children in their awful ways with children's programs. They succeeded in Iran and for a while in Afghanistan. WE have been shown smuggled film of their atrocities on TV. Look at U-tube, only the blind would see this as Zionist propoganda.
Posted by logic, Saturday, 19 April 2008 3:54:36 PM
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Why should Israel care of Arabic-Palestinians more, than their leaders of Hamas, for instance?

You had fired-you got responded.
Posted by MichaelK., Monday, 21 April 2008 8:47:49 PM
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Dane says "we aren't occuping anyone's country ".

Steady up - no one has been able to produce any of the pieces of paper that say the British or any Government that followed,negotiated the purchase of Australia off the varous Aboriginal Owners .

We,mainly with our private armies [while the government put their colonial blinkers on] just took it by force - remember ?

Perhaps we really do need compulsory history classes .

Or are we better off and less bitter , ignorant of our past ?
Posted by kartiya jim, Monday, 21 April 2008 10:02:23 PM
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MichaelK

It is good to see you back. Welcome.

Yes, Hamas have treated their people terribly - murdering, and terrorising them. In fact, so many Gazans left for the US, Canada and Europe in the early part of 2007 alone, that a Fatwa was issued in June 2007 forbidding them to leave the territory, unless for educational reasons.

Unfortunately, many Westerners, at least here on OLO deliberately ignore this. This indicates that they are not really concerned about the Palestinians at all, otherwise they would have condemned the Hamas. Those OLO who don't do so, are the worst kind of hypocrites.
Posted by Danielle, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 12:17:33 AM
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Danielle,

Perhaps, their leaders take a Britain + attachments for an example: hypocrisy and discrimination for own folks and mentoring the outer tribes.
Posted by MichaelK., Tuesday, 22 April 2008 11:28:38 AM
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Marilyn Shephard,

Considering your many hatreds especially of anything to do with Jews and/or Israel, indeed any discussion of this topic, why do you constantly return to such OLO theads and subject us to your tirades. You have implied that the entire issue should be dropped ... then why do you ...

Why not venture comments to OLO threads on which you undoubtedly would be better informed, such as underwater-knitting; or indeed on “imaginary friends” on which you appear to have both personal and obsessional experience. One suspects these provide you with your inside information, to which mere mortals like us are not privy.

You harp constantly about the term “anti-semite” which has a very specific meaning. Find your way to a moderately educated person. They may be able to explain it to you. If one were to apply your logic, in manipulating this term, to the word “hippopotamus” it could well be such an animal would be a legitimate entrant in the Melbourne Cup.

To use your colloquial language, Marilyn, you don’t speak crap. You suffer from verbal diahorrea ... much less substantial than crap, unrestrained and with urgent constancy
Posted by Danielle, Tuesday, 22 April 2008 7:00:22 PM
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