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Misguided and misogynistic religiosity : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 27/10/2006

Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali's latest gaffe illustrates the widespread misogyny that exists among Muslim religious leaders.

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Jolanda
We are not talking about bulls who follow conditioning and response in a bullfight. We are talking about civilised men who can exercise the power of reason before they act.

That some men cannot understand that a woman has the right to wear whatever she wants without the threat of sexual violence is frightening in this day and age. If a woman is wearing overtly sexual clothes and being sexually suggestive, you still have no right to touch her unless it is mutually consensual. Whatever her dsress suggests in your mind, you have no right over her body.

Ability to control our base urges is what separates us from wild animals.

Why don't some men grasp that? How would you like it if some random women came up to you and grabbed your genitals? Do you think she has the right to do that too??
Posted by Noos, Monday, 30 October 2006 12:48:16 PM
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Hi Relda,

Spot on.
I guess the first issue is clear: Al Hilali and his degrading comments by likening women to meat and men to hungry cats. Which is most offensive to us Muslims first before the wider community.

But all of a sudden another comment from a disliked man made him the most important person in the Australian media.
North Korean nuclear threat, Interest rates, Drought, Aussie farmers loosing a billion dollars worth of wheat to Iraq suddenly became secondary issues. The PM is commenting regularly and daily on Sheikh Tag view on women and men!

I never thought the Australian media can sink to this but then I go back few month and remember the 'free schapelle' mania.
Posted by Fellow_Human, Monday, 30 October 2006 1:22:16 PM
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Noos. You said: We are not talking about bulls who follow conditioning and response in a bullfight. We are talking about civilised men who can exercise the power of reason before they act".

See that is the problem, I am talking about men that have been conditioned to have a certain attitude towards woman. I am talking about men who are not very civilised and who dont respect woman and who have criminal tendencies. Unfortunately there are alot of them and they come in all shapes and sizes, natinalities and religions. You dont know which ones they are until it is too late, so we have to teach our girls to make good choices and decisions and consider the world we live in today so as to avoid becoming easy targets and so as to protect themselves from heartache and pain. After they have been raped it is too late.
Posted by Jolanda, Monday, 30 October 2006 3:07:56 PM
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Few in the West know much about Sayyid Qutb, but a read
of his "Milestones", is eye opening stuff, btw its freely
downloadable on the net.

Islam, like any religion, has all sorts of versions,
each group, much like the Xtians, claiming that their's
is the one and only real version.

In today's press there was a mention of Hilali's support
of Qutb. In that case we have a problem, for it was
Qutb's inspiration which is behind the Taliban/Al Queda
version of Islam.

http://www.theaustralian.news.com.au/story/0,20876,20665970-28737,00.html

If Hilali supports Qutb, perhaps its time for him to move
on and go elsewhere, for in that case we have little in common.
Posted by Yabby, Monday, 30 October 2006 3:40:03 PM
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Hilali should be stripped of citizenship and any benefits payed by the Australian tax payer and deported . With him should go the convicted gang rapists, their families and any who react in a negative manner.
We do not need these people.
Why he has been permitted to spew his poison for so long is a question those responsible should be forced to answer.
Others who have said far less than Hilali have been dragged before the court. If he is allowed to get out of this, there is no justice in this country.
Posted by mickijo, Monday, 30 October 2006 4:03:11 PM
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To make comment on any social issue, one must be a part of the "whole" community. If one is not part of the "whole" cummunity, then one has no right to make comment!
Posted by Kipp, Monday, 30 October 2006 6:03:53 PM
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