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Misguided and misogynistic religiosity : Comments

By Irfan Yusuf, published 27/10/2006

Sheik Taj Din al-Hilali's latest gaffe illustrates the widespread misogyny that exists among Muslim religious leaders.

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Angryharry.com

"Muslim Cleric Causes Uproar Over Women's Clothing Australia's most senior Muslim cleric has prompted an uproar by saying that some women are attracting sexual assault by the way they dress.

Of course, this uproar was caused by various women's groups who think that women should bear no responsibility for what they do.

Well, in my view, Sheikh Taj el-Din al-Hilali is correct in what he says - at least to some extent.

Indeed, only recently, I wrote the following on my Your Emails page to a woman who seemed to think that women should be able to dress as they please without needing to take into account how others might respond."

Angry Harrys quote not mine.
Posted by JamesH, Friday, 27 October 2006 11:22:47 AM
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This is not the first time a local or visiting Imam has declared that sluts… err…women are responsible for causing men to rape them.

Why accuse the Imam for speaking the truth? After all he is just repeating the teachings of his prophet Mohammad to whom women were half as valuable as men. Only good for pleasing men and stay at homeraising a family.

Mohammad wives were not allowed to leave his house…and always stay covered in case a visitor might get excited at the sight of some meat…I mean flesh...err... skin.

Islam or should we say the prophet M. was obsessed with sex.

Instead of just rapping them, Mohammad decided it waslawful for him to marry all the women he wanted to have. Why borrow a book when you can have a library at home? His personal harem was specially blessed by Allah of course.

Even paradise according to M. is a sex club, an orgy just for MEN. Women will have to oblige, prostitute themselves to their husbands (and many other men)- like it of not - just like on earth now...this is called "submission" or Islam.

If you have to blame someone EXPOSE the source of the message – the Qur’an and its author Mohammad - NOT the Imam that teaches from it.

Even paradise according to M. is a sex club, an orgy just for MEN only. Women will have to oblige their (and other) man - like it of not - just like on earth now.
Posted by coach, Friday, 27 October 2006 1:01:02 PM
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Philo: "We do not frequent brothels because we can. We exercise restraint and personal responsibility toward our spouse. We do not circle nude bathers making lewd suggestive comments as seems the nature of some perverted men." You are being ironic aren't you?

Who is "we". Come on Philo. Get real. Why are brothels so profitable? Come on Philo check out the domestic violence figures. The police in my area were called out to more than 30 in one night - I forget the exact figures but more than a quarter of those resulted in charges being laid.

The nude bathers thing was a bit weird. But how many people sit in front of their PC getting off on porn? Generally speaking Australians aren't perfect Philo. However, generally speaking we are more liberal in our attitudes towards others and behave in the the ways your quote alludes to - but fair go we do have some bad eggs in our nest too
Posted by ronnie peters, Friday, 27 October 2006 1:47:22 PM
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Who wins when you fight sexism with racism?
I think it'll be a draw.
Posted by wobbles, Friday, 27 October 2006 1:53:29 PM
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I believe that Muslims do very little to contribute anything positive to the American way of life. The beliefs are so far out that they might as well be from another planet. Someone please tell me what are muslims beliefs? It surely is not peace. I have lived in Iraq for the last 3 years and have seen very little demonstration of peace from Muslims.
Posted by MuslimHater, Friday, 27 October 2006 2:23:47 PM
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A spokeswoman from the Victorian Islamic council was on the tube last night. She said something along the lines of "1 step forward, now 10 steps back"

I think that this is about the best description of the situation.

By the by, for those (such as coach) who claim that Islam has backwards attitudes towards women, I am willing to wager my house (not that I own a house...) that I could find you 5 bible passages that indicate a similar view towards women (10 if you include the Old testament).
Posted by ChrisC, Friday, 27 October 2006 2:49:09 PM
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