Thanks for nothing Citizen, your post should be deleted. How dare you link to an over-18 site without at least warning us? Didn't the fact that the top sponsor's link was "Sexy Teens Dating" suggest to you maybe that this wasn't a legitimate news source? Do you really rely on this sort of site to inform yourself?

Savage Pencil thanks for the link to http://www.unitedpeoples.net : that colour scheme BY ITSELF constitutes a crime against humanity.

Talk about lies, Infan, just read an article in last week's Guardian called 'Another King called George". It tells how the British Georgian rulers accepted laws from Parliament then changed them to suit themselves.

Now Americana's Georgie Boy is up to the same tricks, said to have signed more than 750 Congressional laws since he took office, later redefining with his own spin, though possibly with Cheney and Rumsfeld looking over his shoulder.

Wonder whether George W's close buddy boy Johnnie Howard is up to the same tricks over here?

Things are bad enough in Iran without fabricating stories to suit your neocon mates. There is increasing persecution of Baha'i's http://bahai.org/persecution/iran and it may be that this is partly a result of the USA's hawkish rhetoric on Iran. It doesn't help that the Baha'i World Centre is in Haifa, Israel, but Baha'i links to Haifa go back to 1868, long before Israel's establishment.

It seems that the Bush administration has learned nothing from the debacle in Iraq if they are seriously contemplating a military incursion in Iran. Even though they are a persecuted minority, none of my Australian Baha'i friends see a war as anything but an unmitigated disaster. Baha'i's are pacifists who don't believe that wars solve anything. I tend to agree.

Hmmm…looks like Realist really CAN be a realist at times. Mr Boaz is still off in La La Land though.

The lies and spin mentioned in this article remind me of the video made by some guy in Europe which was pieced together from a video game called Battlefield. It starts with a dubbed voice saying:

"I was just a boy when the infidels came to my village in Blackhawk helicopters..."

This line comes from Team America, the satirical movie from the creators of South Park. The Bush Administration and Murdoch’s News Corp. discovered it and ran with it, telling everyone that it was from a terrorist recruitment game! A classic example of how dumb the lies and propaganda of our current neo-conservative governments are.

…Oh but the interest rates!

Johnj comment that "There is increasing persecution of Baha'i's ...iran and it may be that this is partly a result of the USA's hawkish rhetoric on Iran."

Sounds a bit like blaming the Nazi persecution of the Jews on Hitler's opponents.
The blame lies totally in Iran’s court and once more it’s been going on from generations.
The Parsi/Zoroastrsians minority suffered similarly, until they choose to leave Iran enmass.
It's a subset of the general intolerance/mistreatment of non-Muslim minorities found in most Islamic countries.

It's easy for lies and propaganda to be used as a pretext for war.

The Americans are experts. Remember the Alamo and the war of Guadaloupe. It was unconsitutional for the US to invade a country unless that country invaded the US first. But in 1810, they needed Texas, New Mexico, Arizona, and California, Colorado, and Nevada, knowing that there was "gold in them hills". Desperate for war, they actually dressed US soldiers as Mexicans, ordered them to go to Mexico, and return to US territory with gunfire. It looked like the US was being invaded by Mexico. They declared war, and Mexico could do nothing but attempt to defend itself.

Japan was already at war with the Allies before Pearl Harbour WWII. The HMS Sydney was bombed by Japanese submarines, not the German Kormerant, as written in History. The Kormerant bombed the HMS Lucitania, so the HMAS Sydney Bombed the Kormorant. The Kormorant didn't have time to bomb the HMS Sydney back. The Chinese cooks on the Kormorant released their knowledge of Japanese subs bombing the Australian war ship. Why is this a big deal?

This was a few weeks before Pearl Harbour, and the news had to be silenced at all costs. Members of the Kormerant survived on the West Coast of WA, but no survivors of the HMS Sydney were found. HMS Sydney was closer to the coast. Documents were found suggesting that Australian military actually shot HMS Sydney Survivers to keep it a secret. This would steal the thunder of a great performance. Pearl Harbour had to be staged to shock the world.

There are now documents that prove that the CIA knew the exact schedule and plans of 9 /11, staging the performance for the highest possible fear factor. No surprise in the history of war.

Who started it? Who was the director of the performance? Who orchestrated the swift departure of the Bin Laden family after the scene of the crime?

We all know he knows oil, but speaks more Texan than Arabic.