Ghassan you write, “In terms of world history it is the racism of the majority, not that of the minorities, that has led to the most evil racist situations known to us: slavery, apartheid and the Holocaust.”, but wasn’t apartheid the racism of the white minority – albeit an extremely powerful minority?

“Just because a dog is born in a stable doesn’t make it a horse”.

I think that’s what most of you are trying to say.

I heard all this sort of stuff from Enoch Powell back in the sixties.

I think some of you would be more at home at Stormfront.org or browsing through Yggdrasil’s Library.

You will find lots of interesting resources and like-minded people there to reinforce your beliefs.

You may have to substitute other racial groups as required but the sentiment is always the same. Whenever compassion, humanity or self-doubt rear their ugly heads, rush to those sites for a quick top-up of your own personal reality.

It will be like looking into a mirror.

I hope you like what you see.

To Mr Schmuck.

Human beings think by categorising concepts. Stereotyping is a form of categorisation. To say “don’t stereotype” means exactly the same as “don’t think. “

Human beings do not think by prejudging, its just that everybody does it. For example, please note that Mr Ghassam Hage has written an article denouncing prejudging, then he posted a reply to me in which he said “You don’t seem to be the sort of person who feels they can learn much from people with a different opinion,”

That is a prejudgement. Checkmate.

Look mate, George Orwell once wrote that intellectuals espouse through mindless slogans which they do not have a clue what they really mean. Some anti racist celebrity just says “stereotyping and prejudging is absolutely awful and verboten”, then people like you say, “It is? Oh, OK. I have no idea what you are talking about, but it sounds authoritative, so I will use it myself.” But you never think about what the slogan actually means.

I have been bashing lefties for a few years on these debate sites and I earnestly assure you that I have come across some pretty radical ones. They all try this “stereotyping and prejudging is evil” crap on me, and I always get them in the end. Because sooner or later, they do it themselves. They have to, because they are human. You see, Mr Schmuck, that is the biggest problem with you trendy lefty approach to human relations, it depends entirely upon the entire human race acting like programmable logic robots instead of human beings.

But if you don’t believe me, then please keep it up. I absolutely guarantee you that I will get you too eventually. Because everybody stereotypes in order to think, and everybody prejudges.

My final example is the recent post submitted by Mr Rache. I guarantee you that if I did not point out that his post too is a prejudgement of "racists", it would never have entered your head that it is.

RObert,

>>I do believe though that the approach taken by yourself and others decreases the likelyhood of peace.<<

1. Can you describe what you mean by "peace"?

2. Is that an admittance on your part that there is actually a war?

3. How can you have “peace” with an enemy that sole desire is to eradicate anything that is not equivalent to their cultural way?

4. What aspect of islam are you not clear upon?

5. How much more proof do you need to start doubting your instincts?

6. Are you just happy to play the terrorist ..err… islamic advocate on OLO?

Dear Ranier
I'm feeling left out mate.... you didn't say you posted 'my' posts for your arts students to view. Please do so and then invite them to respond HERE, and we can make a genuine contribution to human understanding of important issues together.

Lost Tribe ? My Bible says "All" have sinned..... including me and including you. All are in need of forgiveness and Grace.

Please take the time to address the questions in my last post if you don't mind, because that would help in understanding you.

If 'your' Arts students are all of one mind, and viewing Redneck as his own worst enemy, then urge them to engage on the issue. If we didn't have Rednecks rather firm views on such things, how would be contrast our own position with clarity ?

Regarding your Arts Students again.. I CHALLENGE THEM to engage here and to actually submit their own views (or are they 'your' views ?) to the scrutiny of the market place of ideas.

I suspect most of them have about as much clue of reality where they have to depend on themselves as Paris Hilton does about money. (Now there...that should wrankle a few :)

Is it possible your arts students are just happy wallowing in the mire of having their own unchallenged ideas simply re-inforced by the chirpings and mutterings of those who share those views ?

So.. you students.. come on now.. open up those thinking caps and see how you all go with thinking adults who have been around.

In our cases, we have 'been there, done that, got the T-shirt' in your case, is it just 'We read/are told about it' ?

Ranier.. don't forget to indicate how you view the 'white' portion of mixed race Indigenous/white Australians. Superior, Inferior or equal.

coach, clearly there is a war between extremist muslims and the rest of us (including moderate muslims). Most of the terrorist victims are muslim.

You appear to be determined to create a situation where moderates feel they can never have a place with us in opposing the extremists. If you and like minded individuals are sucessfull then we end up with more extremist muslims, if anything the terrorist advocate here is more likely to be yourself by result rather than intent.

I don't particularly like any religious extremism including your own. It represents something that is far from the teachings of the one you claim to follow. Your approach is focussed on creating division where none need exist and spreading your message of hate. Thankfully most christains are not like that.

I'm away for a couple of weeks so I'm unlikely to be able to respond to any further posts on these threads.

R0bert