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To Rainier.

I was absolutely fascinated by your last post, my dear Rainier.

My last two posts directed at your good self, simply pointed out the fundamental contradiction in your stated position. To whit, that you claim to be anti racist, while at the same time openly being an advocate for “my people”, and also promoting aboriginal self interest through racial discrimination.

I was wondering how you were going to squirm out of that one. Well, now I know.

Instead of addressing the topic under discussion, you took off in a different direction. You then chucked a large and very smelly red herring behind you that was calculated to bruise my self esteem. This you hoped would spark an emotional reaction from me, and get the wolf running after you, away from the direction you most earnestly did not want him to go.

But this little wolf can not only smell red herrings, he can smell blood too, and he knows when he has his quarry wounded and cornered.

So, I insist upon you explaining the obvious contradiction of your position.

The second most interesting part of your reply was that you said that you were some sort of Artz teacher.

Hmmmm.

You are not really Steven Hagan, using a non de plume, are you? Steven Hagan promotes himself as some sort of university “lecturer” in a “make work” university sheltered workshop, where the only job prerequisites are presumably “aboriginality”, a talent for verbally bashing whitey, and a bad attitude.

If you are Steven Hagan, could I point out that it could be considered a reasonable assumption that your opinions might be coloured by your pecuniary interests? And that would also be an excellent explanation as to why you are doing mental gymnastics trying to dodge answering a simple, direct question.

I will bet that this is one post that you will not show to your wide eyed and gullible students.

Oops, sorry Mr Schmuck. I am prejudging again.

Yoo Hooooooooooooooo. Rainierrrrrrrr. Where arrrrrrrrrre youuuuuuuuuu?

Cmon, mate. here's your big chance to show your 100+ students how smart you are and how dumb redneck racists are. If you are too frightened to cross pens with me, how about pushing your star pupil forward as your champion? You reckon that they laugh at my posts, well they should not have too much trouble with me, eh?

Or are you worried that they might still have the vestiges of a thinking brain, despite their brains being inoculated to reasoned thought, which was caused by being the victims of an "outcomes based" education system?

Well, you are right to be worried. You see, Rainier (Stephen?, you are now the Conservative trying to prop up the failed status quo ante. While I am the heretic who questions the prevailing orthodoxy. Artz students are rebels by nature (stereotyping?) and they just might find my anti establishment sermons to be appealing to their anti everything philosophies.

As old Bob used to sing. "The times, they are, a changin"

Well I predicted and knew that paying you more attention that you deserve would have you salivating with childish excitement.

First to defend my students: Most are doing double degrees/cross disciple (science, medicine, etcetera) so they can hardly be stereotyped as Artz student as you have. More importantly they all possess a capacity to reflect, think and learn. One day you too may learn these simple human abilities.

Secondly to defend my mate Stephen Hagan: Steve is imminently qualified to do his job. He is highly qualified academic (and soon to complete Phd. Student) who has published widely and been a community leader of renown. He is also very talented higher education teacher.

Lastly, I just want to say that if attacking me provides you with endless childish amusement then go for you life. It only confirms to me that in real life you are just a cowardly, insecure scared little man. I'd love to see what your reaction would be if you met me in the flesh. But I know that an invitation to meet would be declined.

You just wouldn't have the bottle would you?

It’s far easier to be a tough guy here online isn't it?

But if you want to really like to meet me - let OLO admin know and we can exchange some real life addresses. The ball is in your court.

“In a controversy, the instant we feel anger, we have already ceased striving for truth and have begun striving for ourselves”
Abraham J. Heschel quotes (Jewish theologian and philosopher, 1907-1972)

There is nothing more galling to angry people than the coolness of those on whom they wish to vent their spleen. ~Alexandre Dumas

Oooooh, look, Schmucky! Rainier is prejudging me. You should now give him a smack for doing PC verboten things. But I doubt if you will. I have noticed that the politically exquisite develop an extreme case of myopia when one of their own violates the moral codes which they demand their opponents abide by.

To-Rainier

You just won’t answer that question, will you? It must be excruciatingly embarrassing to have to pretend that you have forgotten the question that you most earnestly do not want to answer. Because if you did, you know you would be exposed as a hypocrite who uses high sounding moral arguments against racism, to justify your own racism.

I want every little trendoid on this OLO site to see you as you really are. I want them to comprehend that they are being used by people like you, who use their high ideals to con them into fighting for other agendas, that are the exact opposite to that which the young idealists think that they are fighting for. Unless you can give a credible explanation of the obvious contradiction in your stated position, you stand exposed as a black racist who simply hates white people, and who uses “anti racism” as a cover for your true agenda. I would ask Scout, Schmucky, SneakyPeter and all the rest of you naïve young people, given Rainier’s obvious ducking and weaving, do you really trust that people like Rainier, Ghassam Hage or Stephen-Hagan are really promoting the noble causes that you think they are? Or is it beginning to percolate down through those previously impermeable skulls of yours, that you are being used?

Once again, Rainier, you seem to want to know my identity. But that is not going to happen, mate. I have a funny feeling that the reason you want to know who I am is because I am an effective enemy to your cause of promoting black racism. If you knew who I was, I will bet I will get a writ from some taxpayer cashed up “aboriginal” legal aid service to shut me up