ALL, it is great that you have knowledge of Kant's attempt at a recipe for Perpetual Peace, which really should have been written as 'a way to find Perpetual Peace'. As you are no doubt aware of also, towards the end of the Kantian period, we also had Wilhelm Hegel, the other so-called great German philosopher. Indeed, some critics say, that Hegel was Kant's opposite, actually believing that wars and conflicts were needed to test and strengthen mankind's potential. Sort of an earlier 'survival of the fittest' which incidently Darwin only believed was natural for non-humans. He actually wrote that humans should not carry on killing each other, as he believed survival of the fittest for humanity, meant those who are able to develop a strong moral sense, especially a sense of justice, as we might guess that Immanuel Kant somewhat preceded Darwin with.

But certainly not Wilhelm Hegel, who as you probably know ran a school which the young Karl Marx attended. However, it is here where the interesting philosophical crux occurs. Though the Hegelian school was where Marx learnt the precepts of social revolution, he turned left wing towards the proletariat, while others who later followed Hegelian principles where able to use pretty well the same principles to turn ultra-right wing, as for example both Facism amd Marxism grew very much from the Hegelian principles that wars are necessary to test and better the mettle of men. Certainly something Kant did not believe in, with his apparently fervent belief or hope, that mankind must eventually find a way to prevent global wars.

George C, WA - Bushbred

Thanks BB, you just reminded me of an Essay I have on my system:
I can not post it, it is about 22 pages and I have not a link for it.
But it deals with Kant –Hegel and Schopenhauer. Personally I side with Schopenhauer, but concede that in perspective, and philosophers of that time, were more influenced by Spinoza and his New Pantheism Ideologies,( Similarity with Islamic) and from an anthological perspective, they seem not to possess knowledge of Demographic shifts throughout history, long before.
The obvious one to mind is the Aryan Invasions of India, etc and the influence of Cultures intermingled, created variations on Religious perspectives, including Buddhism-and Hindu etc as pantheistic.

This is the best link I can find without Posting Book length:
http://users.cyberone.com.au/myers/schopenhauer.html

And a poignant observation of Philosophy then, there is NO reference to the Protocols of Zion. This is a result of the continuum to describe philosophically, and religiously: WHO AM I, type intellectualization. And the further they shifted Ideology towards pantheism and Universalism, the need to create Intellectualized propaganda was initiated, admittedly profiling the sources we need to apply Psychology and as far as possible with the information available, Neurological condition of the emanating sources.
It is interesting to learn the Protocols of Zion are indeed a fabrication in its original form, and emanated from: the period of the Mid to late 17th century. And France even to this day, has a lot to answer for. {Strewth} Illuminati: http://majorityrights.com/index.php/forums/viewthread/83/

France has a great hand in harnessing the pathological Ideologist and seems to generate all of our worldly problems to date.
Karl Marx himself was kicked out of France, that’s how bad he was-From Post-Modernism, Political Correctness- Taxation- etc, Maquvellianism and the list goes on. France, we thank you(Not)

Thor, face it, you're a bigot with a tidy little formula: Danish stats + ranting Islamic nutballs + disaffected youth of ME appearance = rape. Listen up - for once. Rapists, whatever their ethnic background, Anglo, Arab, Thorian, are the dregs of humanity. They don't follow anyone, they don't listen to anyone - mainstream or nutball - Islamic, Christian, Jewish, or atheist. About the only thing bobbing about in their craniums might be lyrics about Ho's and motherf...ers from US (yes, good old US) rap culture. Chinese immigrants? Economically integrated. Italians/Greeks? Arrived here at a time of full employment, so 2nd gen now fully integrated. And of course unemployment is no excuse for rape - or any other sort of crime. But you will remember that the devil makes work for idle hands. Finally, consider this data: Sydney's Bankstown/Canterbury areas are the heart of the 'Lebanese' community, right? Well, far from being THE hotbed of sexual assault you, Thor, might expect, NSW Bureau of Crime Stats for 2000 (I think that's the year) show that of 150 LGAs it came 94th for rates of sexual assault. Ever wondered about the culture that gave rise to Abu Ghraib? Or the Likud Manifesto?

Strewth

You're wrong, although I understand where your coming from a bit. Nobody is saying that ALL Muslims are rapists, but when you look to the specific act of gang rapes with a racial motive, you can't help but notice it happens in every western diaspora they've settled in.

It's just factual. What irks people like Thor is that the Islamic community leaders fail to confront it, instead blaming our culture.

Any culture that views women as somewhat lesser beings (and Islam DOES view women this way, not only do prominent clerics at prestigious Islamic universities in the mid-east say this, Islamic texts, and history show this - as does todays Islamic world through honour killings, not being allowed to swim next to men, being covered with a veil) will have some people in that community acting on that attitude.

We have families in the underclass that grow up that way, leading to the occassional gang rape and murder, say the Cobby killers. Difference is though, they were mad, wheraes these Islamic rapists were normal, they showered, were groomed, respected themselves, and so on. It is a cultural thing, the evidence is overwhelming.

Are you really denying that?

Abu Graib? Come on, undies on heads mate, university pranks. It's ironic that due to pressure from human rights groups to close it, now those Iraqi prisoners face the REAL prospect of torture at the hands of the Iraqi's, who let's face it, excel at it.

All the US do is play loud music, get a dog to bark even though the inmate laughs and asks when his next smoke break is. Come on mate, Aussie prisoners in WW2 were tortured.

As for your LGA stuff, nonsense. Areas with say 12000 people like in the country, of course will have higher rape stats.

But you miss the point.

The problem of racially motivated gang rapes is something UNIQUE to Muslims.

Strewth

It is documented incourt proceedings that Muslim gang rapists confessed to befriending a youngAustralian girl on a train and asked her if shewas Muslim or not and stated that they wanted to make sure she was Australian and notMuslim - this is racist in itself, and they only inference I can come up with to explain this open targeting of a non-Muslim Australian girl is the preaching for Islamic sheiks. The rapists wanted to rape an Australian girl - andthe racism continued as the referred toher as an "Aussie slut".

Yes, peoples of all coloursand cultures rapewithin and across culture - but, in Australia no one else rapes based on racial lines - no one has raped an 'Aussie slut' and stated, andconfessed to such statement in court, that she "deserved it because she is Australian" - do you seethe difference?!

And back to the statistics, there are more unemployed, low housing, low educated Danish frommany cultures in aggregate then there are unemployed, low housing Muslims in Denmark - Hence, if unemployment, low housing, low education etc leads to rape, then one wouldexpect the statistics toshow a higher rate of rapes by Danish, as they have more unemployed - butalas, they only make up 32% of all rapes, Hence, the premise has been PROVED statistically FALSE!! 4% of the population andresponsible for 68% of rapes, but if half of them are unemployed, then its only about 25% of all unemployed, so according to you they should be responsible for 25% of all rapes, but they make up 68% - still overrepresented, so you need to look elsewhere for another explanation - the incitement of some radical sheiks? Ihold econometrics/fiancé jointhonors, and I studied a lot of statistics courses and deductive reasoning to interpret the statistics for the information to be used. If you stillcan't understand the statistics and false premise about unemployment as the trend of rape DOES NOT come out in the other unemployed groups, then I suggest you come and studya course or too on the subject.

Can someone on the forum please explain this to her?