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Palestine a democracy? : Comments

By Taya Fabijanic, published 10/3/2006

Israel needs to be reminded as much as Hamas about not using violence for political gains.

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Palestine Israel should be Called only Palestine one State for all Jews Arabs and Christians alike Israel the Jewish State no way it does not make any Sense that is a Recipe for Hatred and the Zionist mostly from Central Europe have created only Hate backed by the British and the American Leaders Large Immigration into Palestine by Large Number of Fanatic Jewish Ultra-Conservative Individuals Claiming that God gave the Jews Palestine as a Promess Land is Madness That itself create Great Hatred .
Posted by ozevic, Friday, 10 March 2006 3:31:33 PM
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For those who haven’t already done so, I think it would be enlightening for you to have a look at Israel and her neighbors through the eyes of Google Earth.
The panorama illustrates the practical results of years of middle-east politics.
Posted by Goeff, Friday, 10 March 2006 4:04:15 PM
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Excellent article Taya.
But the worst of the violence is the malignant and obscene territory grabbing Israeli settlements.
They should at the very least be bulldozed all the way back back to the pre '67 borders.
Let the Israeli's then build their own enclosing fence on those lines.
Posted by keith, Friday, 10 March 2006 4:50:50 PM
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In spite of the United Nations, there have been many wars/conflicts in the last fifty plus years. How many conflicts have allowed one state to take control of another? Why should the Israelies be appeased with more territory? Why should occupation of land by force be justification for expanding?

My father visited Palestine. Where is Palestine now?

DonF
Posted by donf, Friday, 10 March 2006 4:52:05 PM
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The Author said:
And as Hamas entered talks with Iran, Russia, Saudi Arabia, Egypt.... US President George W. Bush attempted to meet these discussions by transforming the Road Map peace process into a list of demands:

COMMENT:
‘Iran’-xenophobic Islamo fascist nuclear wanna be.
‘Russia’ Always in need of buyers for their missile technology and for new economic markets generally. Unlikely to be influenced by the ‘Jewish Lobby’ as is the USA.
‘Egypt’ long standing War humiliation at the hands of the Israelis.
‘SaudiArabia’ Moneyyyyyyyyy plus birthplace of Mohammed.

Strewth said:
non-Jews, were ethnically cleansed by Zionist forces under cover of war in 1948-49 beyond the borders of the Jewish state.

COMMENT To give balance, thousands of Jews were also ‘ethnically cleansed’ from surrounding Arab lands.

Remote Centreman said:
Since both sides begin with a claim of total possession of Palestine as their historical right; and since neither claim can be accepted within the realms of realism or without grave injustice: it is plain that compromise, i.e. partition, is the only correct solution

COMMENT: The first sentence is the key, read Genesis 12 to the end of 2nd Kings to fill in the gaps :)

Dovif said:
You are free to choose anyone you want, but if you choose someone we don't like, we won't give you aid and you can go bankrupt.

COMMENT: Welcome to the world as it really is :) The outcome of WW2 is still what dictates policy.

Coyote said:
The history of this region, and the history of this conflict spans millenium and generations.

Many nations have had a hand in the formation of the situation we see today. Russia, France, Britain, Turkey (Ottomans), the Vatican.

COMMENT: Astute observations ! This sheds light on Dovif’s complaint.

SUMMARY. “All have (and continue to) sinned and fall short of the Glory of God.”
2Cor5
17Therefore, if anyone is in Christ, he is a new creation; the old has gone, the new has come! 18All this is from God, who reconciled us to himself through Christ and gave us the ministry of reconciliation:(NIV)
Posted by BOAZ_David, Saturday, 11 March 2006 6:45:43 AM
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As far as Australia is concerned there are two old adages that sum it all up. They are:

1. The enemy of my enemy is my friend.

2. The friend of my enemy is my enemy.

The result of this is that at the moment most Australians would regard Israel as our ally and Palestine as our enemy.
Posted by plerdsus, Saturday, 11 March 2006 8:30:32 AM
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