Meredith...LETS GET GOING !

I believe 100,000 people visit this site a month.... perhaps we can persuade Graham Young to run one of his E- petitions ?

Give the wording some thought and we can all compare notes.

I'm very much for 'probation' and of course not for parking infringements. Political demo's, specially with violence, or attacks on Detention Centres, are a different matter, specially if they are at odds with our democratically established foreign and domestic policy.

Perhaps we can tackle:

1/ Selective Policing in NSW (Review of policy and approach)

2/ Immigration to be re-visited and re-structured along lines as I and others have repeatedly suggested. (selective/discriminatory/in our national interest not that of the immigrant)

Of course they are 1/ a State issue and 2/ a Federal one.

I can feel Pericles breathing down my neck and his arm raised holding a copy of "Mosely, my life" to beat me with :) so I better not say too much more or I'll be mush.

I noticed a beautiful example of racial harmony today. At our swimming pool- about 85% aussies, some Tongans and some Asians, (Cambo's I'd guess) and one lone Chinese. Everyone was getting along in a very 'transparent' way, with no skin color or cultural issues coming into play. Maybe this was because it models how Australia should be ! I had a great chat with one Tongan guy (a Policeman)
a/ A prevailing culture
b/ Small minorities who are culturally compatable and adjust to our ways.

Our Christmas dinner was something.
-Me, Scottish/English Victim of Highland Clearances.
-My wife, Victim of aggression by other Borneo tribes, and grandma/pa had slaves. (freed)
-My mixed children
-My daughters half maori b/f who is a Ngapuhi, the tribe which slaughtered its enemy tribe when they obtained muskets from the English.

But we....had peace on earth and good will because in Christ, "The old has passed way, behold, the new has come"

Perciles,
Thanks for the advice, I have taken it firmly on board. My opinion was never going to change, nor my defence of my opinions, however your point is well made, as I have stated in other threads, I may not be the most educated, the most knowledgeable, or the most politically astute, but I do know right from wrong, and am prepared to argue my case untill I am proven wrong by a common sense point of view, once again I thank you for your advice he is one of the most arrogant, self opinioned people on the site, as as they say, there is no rest for the wicked, and I'll make sure there's not.

David Boaz,
I was the person who first suggested the 2 year bond idea to try to start a discussion on positive measures that could be taken to solve the Sydney situation. Living in North Qld, where multi-culturism is a very friendly affair, much as your Christmas dinner, it seems strange that these situations develop, and I don't pretend to know the whole situation, I am merely making suggestions as to how the situation may be peaceably solved. Some have expressed a desire for a 5 year probation which may be more suitable.

Most State Government funding comes from the Federal Government, so the N.S.W. Police Minister should approach the Federal Treasurer for more funding for his/her department if the police are being outnumbered by these gangs, I maintain that we should look at the crimes not the race, and either jail or deport the criminals of whatever race they happen to be, which as you mentioned above would need State/Federal cooperation, let's hope it is fortcoming, in the meantime we should keep the ideas on solutions flowing, so eventually a few good ideas may be compiled and a petition circulated calling on both parliaments to proceed with a detailed plan incorporating our suggestions, Regards,Shaun

Fair-go “who” for “what” in Australia? Advancing where?

Rootless, inside a fragmented “ mates-ship” roughly in denial, dominated by a top-heavy public service, bound to blind autocratic forms of structural violence that reproduce the cultural antics of fear, discrimination and nonsensical xenophobia, regardless of our having the advantage of many good national and state policies.

Sustaining bogus an unfounded international apathetic national pride that declares itself active in the toil for the” global fight for a fairer world”. A nation struck dry in a homeland swollen by a stress driven mainstream, lead by bullies, dishonest and lethargic politicians (together with narrow representation) that… severely fail to avert racism and malevolence.

I agree, Australia has become a culturally divest pigsty. It dismantles innovation, opportunity and diversity - refusing to unfurl… except when it comes to selling out to popular synthetic commodities which symbolise the economic imbalance of imports like flash cars and fast package food!

"Why can't Australia be more like Canada, a nation that embraces civil rights and tolerance"…? Look harder… folks, who say’s Canada is in reality, is any better?

YES, I do want for more for Australia. I believe we need to “turn the lens back onto community”, build capacity through community engagement, if not for ourselves, then for our children and their grandchildren.

Miacat, I hope you're on drugs.

Shonga I am not interested in your political leaning, job, colour or race. I could not give a stuff about your teenage experiences and we would not have a friendly chat about cricket.

What you earn is a matter for you to manage and budget within.

What I earn is for me to decide based on the choices I make.

There is nothing of common interest between us.

If you want to avoid insults – I suggest you stop throwing them around – because I respond to people in the manner they write of me. Eg you have been banned for initiating insulting behaviour and I banned for what I wrote in response.

We are all potentially “racist inclined”, to varying degrees.
Obvious racism like KKK is easy.
Subtler racism is like suggesting we should allow people of different ethnic origins migrate to Australia but not to the suburb we live in.
Insidious racism is where a parent discourages their child from mixing with children of a different ethnic group by talking disparagingly about that group.
That is where racist inclinations are born, in the home, passed on from parent to child.

Example, Latham admitted he taught his sons to “hate Liberals”. I wonder if that was liberals of a particular colour?
Will Latham’s sons grow up to be “tolerant individuals”?
They might, anyone can overcome adversity (even having Latham as a father) but the likelihood is they will be less “tolerant” because of the influence of a malignant parent teaching them to “hate” instead of respect and “tolerate”.

I believe I am tolerant to other peoples ethnic origin and religious beliefs. I believe women should have equal rights to men. I do not believe we should pursue affirmative action campaigns of any sort because they are “discriminatory” by nature and intent.

The reason even you agree with me sometimes is simple – I am Right

Pericles – proving your irrelevance?

Shonga “My opinion was never going to change,” = the sign of a stagnant and closed mind!

That you and Pericles might think me "arrogant", I just don't care.

all that needs doing is to give police the power and authority to defend themselves against threats and attacks so the cops can start belting these w@nkers and shooting them if necessary.

this will make the police feared by those arabs and they will begin to understand that the cops rule the streets.

just target some of the ringleaders and soon their cowardly supporters will fall into line.