I think it could be hard to police a 2 year probation, i had a friend who was beaten so severly for 20 years, it took immagration 20 friggign years to get it together to deport him, and as he has kids in Australia it seemed only a 5 year limit could be put on keeping him out. So he may well coem back... there is so much paper work its a huge chore to get soemone out, that is why i think policing a 2 year probation would eb so hard when all one has to do is run off and assuem a new identity.

On these grounds I'd prefer to see our new citizens come other non islamic backgrounds.

Shonga, I have to disagree with you when you say about Col "providing we stayed away from political debate, we could probably enjoy a drink together, and talk about the cricket."

You would, I suspect, quickly find that you have little in common with someone who is arrogant enough to lecture you on tolerance and then tell you, "You [sic] supposition is, therefore, rubbish."

Don't give an inch to his pseudo-intellectual bullying either. He is as equally guilty of poor English, misspelling and egregious sentence construction as anybody else on this thread.

He responds to an article that puts forward a view with which he disagrees by vilifying the author. I suspect that were you to have a drink with him, and venture an opinion - on cricket, or the weather - contrary to his own, he would not hesitate to give you the same treatment.

Some people just are like that, and best avoided.

I agree with a probationary period and I believe it should be far longer than two years. And of course it should apply regardless of nationality, ethnicity, religion or any other classification.

If it would currently be difficult to implement, then that is because of the lack of adequate laws and surely this could be addressed by the Federal Parliament. There are scientific ways of positively identifying a person and I believe that these identifying characteristics should be on permanent record.

Naturally we wouldn't be wanting to deport a person for parking offences or suchlike. But I believe that criminal offences carrying a certain minimum jail sentence can disqualify a person from certain public positions in Australia and a similar system could apply to qualify for deportation.

I would like this to apply to first generation immigrants too, but I suppose this would be more difficult to implement.

Of course with the present apparently incompetent state of the Immigration Dept, goodness knows who they would manage to deport and who they would allow to stay in Australia.

there seems to be a lot of white anglo saxons being arrested for the cronulla riot but i haven't seen too many arabs being hunted down by police even after the organised attack against the beach suburbs the following day.

is this racism by the police..... a policy of selective policing on behalf of the labour gov which doesn't want to lose the leb vote in the western suburbs, hence a softly softly approach to those poor misunderstood lebs.

it's amazing how the left wing media completely ignores law and order policies of this corrupt gov and refuses point blank to make an issue of anything likely to damage the labour gov.

A reason why the Police have not arrested these Lebanese Muslim youth is because they would have a Macquarie Fields type riot on their hands. When an assrest is attempted car loads of their mates turn up to threaten the police. So the Police back off to avoid a major riot.

This is also similar to places like Redfern where Aboriginal arrests by Police are restricted. Crime is rife in both these communities and is associated with cultural indoctrination, that White man's laws / infidel Australian laws does not apply to us.

Once these criminals leave the security of their community then Police survelliance can arrest them.

Persons who have sworn allegiance to Australia its Government and laws that no longer show such allegiance should loose citizenship including the right to vote. Immigrants could be deported but others should loose all citizenship rights and full social benifits.

Unfortunately if they become a majority of the population they could attempt to form their own government and begin a civil revolution. Establishing a society based in the type of culture they now frequent - Magarbie [spell?] style.

Philo

The Aussie public has a voice, we can petition to lobby for a commonwealth level enquiry into the inability of the police forces to combat islamic crime. They face physical retribution and also legal issues (i.e. calls of racism for attempting to police islamic thugs) I think it takes about 15000 signatures to prompt a legislation change, so doable even if its more to get a Government enquiry.