Well said Jolanda! Why are they bending over to accommodate Muslims to the extent they do? Tax payer money has built many a mosque in this country and by the way, a very Merry Christmas to all of you!

And why are the only people being rounded up by police seem to be White Supremicists? Not that they shouldn't be rounded up, they definitely should - but what about the car loads of Lebanese youths that went to Maroubra and vandalised all those cars? When are they going to be rounded up? Seems they'll get away scot free - again.

Don't tell me the police have no idea who they are, they would have every number plate in that convoy from previous episodes of bad behaviour that they have executed across Sydney. Maybe we should propose that we all become more vigilant about taking number plates of cars full of occupants demonstrating anti-social behaviour? Maybe then the police would have the eveidence they need to prosecute these criminals as they obviously have a problem getting it on their own. (see Tim Priest's article to understand why)

When are the police going to start doing their job? And when are they going to address the very serious issue of illegal guns in Southern Sydney? The police know the guns are there and despite the fact that the National Gun Laws prohibit them, they allow these people to have them without any legal consequence at all. They should be seizing firearms out of that area because Allah knows, there are enough of them in there.

Who is up for some more proactive lobbying on this matter? Talking on a forum is all well and good but it doesn't get things done. Active lobbying on the issue of illegal gun ownership by Lebanese criminals in Southern Sydney would be a good thing to go public with. Is anyone else prepared to do something about it with me?

Let's call a spade a spade. The plain reason why the aggressors keep on getting away with it is because our politicians don't want to get their lily-white hands dirty. They don't want to get out of their taxpayer-funded comfort zones. They conveniently hide behind the blanket mantra of multiculturalism, but don't discriminate according to the actual level of threat. For years they have been turning a blind eye to on-ground intelligence that has been accurately identifying the racial/etc problems.

Much of the problem lies with ideology, political correctness and managerialism in the upper reaches of the political/bureaucratic/ elite establishment, lack of societal standards, and a culture of individualism and permissiveness. This has resulted in the weakening of our institutions as well as the police force. The worst of all the elites in my opinion was Bob Carr - the man with the deep voice who would run a mile at the slightest sign of danger. All he ever did was talk up law & order issues but do the exact opposite in terms of supporting front-line activity, including policing.

The police should be resourced and tasked to round up the bad eggs in society regardless of whether they're Caucasian or Arabic. They should be given full powers to do so. As well, they should be put under media scrutiny to ensure they don't misuse their power. And the rest of apathetic society should start getting off its rear end and clamour for a righting of the sinking ship of state. Don't forget people, that this is the only action that will change things, because all that politicians worry about is getting re-elected.

The arrant nonsense that tries to pass itself off as cogent debate is awe-inspiring in its dearth of reason.

1. Muslims comprise many millions of diverse cultures and countries.

2. Like any large congregation of human beings, not all Muslims agree with each other.

Therefore, if (as the Muslim phobic among us) maintain Islamic followers have a unified purpose in world domination, then they sure have taken their time about it - appears to be a couple of centuries late in fact. And given the diversity of opinion among them are not a homogenous group. Duh!

3. Some Muslims are really, really bad.

4. Some Christians are really, really bad.

5. The secular among us on this forum are really fed up with all the bickering and wish all religious people would make a really big effort to get along with each other.

6. Stating that all Muslims are bent on taking over Australia is the same as Hitler saying the same thing about the Jews in Nazi Germany.

Yes, the Lebanese youth behaved very badly, so did thousands of Anglo yobs - and they all will be processed in due course by the law of our land.

The previous posts would have to amount to nothing short of sedition - that is vilification of a group of people for their religious beliefs.

What disturbs me is just how much enjoyment certain posters are clearly getting out of promulgating this unjustified hatred.

I am sure that away from the PC, these keyboard bullies would never dare to speak to people the way they do to others on this forum. They know that they have to pull their respective heads in to get along be it in the workplace, the roads or in their own homes.

Tanveer pointed out, quite succinctly and fairly that there is a bad element among Lebanese youth.

And that is all - just an element. Not all Lebanese and certainly not all Muslims.

"Yes, the Lebanese youth behaved very badly, so did thousands of Anglo yobs"

Scout, by most accounts your "thousands" figure is rubbish. The reports I've read had the total crowd at between 2000 - 5000, of that a fraction, a few hundred, were reportedly engaged in violent/unruly behaviour.

Scout,

>>6. Stating that all Muslims are bent on taking over Australia is the same as Hitler saying the same thing about the Jews in Nazi Germany.<<

In the same way, in the 1930s, some were content to dismiss and mock Hitler, to see him as a clown incapable of doing real damage.

How could Germany conceivably think it might be able to defeat the Great Powers -- France, Great Britain, the Soviet Union -- along with other formidable smaller powers, including Poland, Holland, Belgium, and so on? Why, it simply wasn't possible.

It was a fantastic idea. They would never try it...

And that is why for so long so many simply regarded Hitler as a big joke, a figure of fun.

Charlie Chaplin, for example, in "The Great Dictator" in depicting Hitler as a clown, he helped lull those who saw the film, for a while longer, into complacency.

Thank God Churchill, who had spent a lifetime studying history had a better understanding. He did not take Hitler and the Nazis lightly. He did not think they were a joke. He did not dismiss them as fantasists.

Wake up scout

Let me tell you what I think part of the problem is!

Australia has Government run systems that are set up to cover up - all the way to the top. And even especially at the top. The process and procedures used in the name of the administration system are designed to cover up issues and protect those in power from having to answer.

The Laws are made by those in power for those in power. The result is what we are seeing today!