From what I read of the riots it appears that a group of moslem Lebanese, that's how they describe themselves. Outnumbered and cravenly belted, even using their boots, one or two surf lifesavers for what ever reason.
Then I also read where Australian girls dressed in bikinis have been for a while now abused by these same Lebanese - again their term - for wearing bikinis.
Then the riots where angry but also cowardly and stupid Australians took too these Lebanese - their term - blokes.
Then these Lebanese - their term - retaliated by attacking the stupid attackers - er no! They retaliated by savagely and cowardly attacking those who had no part in this riot, just choosing at random and using weapons on their defenceless victims. Then vandalising innocent members of the public's vehicles. Then on to courageously abusing Christians including women and children at a service culminating in torching Church buildings.
Hardly appropiate revenge I should think.
We have moslems who look on all other religions as unbelievers, though perhaps not all these thuggish Lebanese - their term - are believing moslems. Yet they have imbibed this 'we are the only true religion Christians and others are unbelievers' all their lives.
Then we have the drunken cowardly Australians who some may be Christian or nominal Christians. They also have read what the moslem mullahs preach about other religions being unbelievers and worthy of death. At the same time most of them see moslems as arrant pagans, and by Bible definition that's just what they are.
While we have in the main moslem hate preachers telling moslems that their religion is the only one, of course there could be others not preaching hatred. But whilst we have these bigots and whilst we have Lebanese - their term - who refuse to be called Australians we will unfortunately have strife. We will have poisonous neo nazis and their filthy ilk using these events, riots to further their own ends.
In closing I really do think that john howard should take a bow. numbat

Very balanced article Tanveer. Thank you.

Tanveer,
As usual you provide an honest, insightful viewpoint. That you included education, economic and familial issues, more than just religion, shows you to be wise beyond most who ‘dip in’ to the subject.

Given that you are a busy man with your own life to lead, would it be possible to receive some suggested reading material, which others can utilise to educate themselves. It may assist in dousing the inflammatory rhetoric we constantly see on this site.

Once again, thank you…

Thought provoking article,

I do agree that the problem is not moslems per se, but the large groups of thugs, that parade around loudly proclaiming their lebanese heritage, whilst attacking both individuals and property. The families of these thugs (and their community) have made little concerted effort to restrict or prevent these activities, in fact they do not condemn them.

This has lead to the formation of a criminal underclass, however in this instance a criminal underclass that seems to revel in attempting to bring down the social order, and attack the fabric thereof. Those that have no respect whatever for the boundaries inherent upon civilized society in general, and ours in particular seem to not realise the results of infringing upon the rights of too many within it. This is surprising considering that according to Tanveer Ahmed, their parents arrived here as the result of a war that started for the same basic reasons.

Face it people, the majority of Australians this week have been asking how to deal with the problems seen in Sydney. I suggest that all societies have specific responses to revolt, tyranny and oppression, and while it may be unpopular it is accepted by the majority.

PS Plantagent - so you agree with racial profiling? (Yes I know so does Tanveer Ahmed).

I remember my first boss as a 15yr old was of Lebanese origin, he was excellent to work for. Today I cannot say he was Christian, Druze, Muslim or Jewish for that matter, it wasn't relevant years ago and it's still irrelevant.

What was relevant was that he was some Aussie guy who needed someone to work for him. It sounds silly to put it that way but he, I, we, didn’t speak of a God if we had one and it truly never occurred to me to ask him. On the other hand, it was significant that he came from Lebanon. Firstly, it explained the accent, the coffee and the good food I got at lunchtime. Secondly, he told me about somewhere I had once been. He told me of cedars, snow and coffee shops and the Paris that was Beirut. They were interesting conversations and not wasted on me.

It didn't matter later that my two best school friends came from Greek and Lebanese backgrounds. We three felt sorry for the daughter of an extremely conservative Italian migrant who wouldn’t let her out on the weekends in case she met a boy…eek!! We thought it harsh and she was desperately lonely because she didn’t fit in with her peer group.

When I lived in Asia, our Caucasian family learned to ignore remarks about "round-eyes” being inherently unclean, uncivilised. After moving back from the Middle East, I cried because of all the scary-looking "ghosts" in my Australian classroom. I immediately wanted to go back even though when I was over there, people used to pull my hair and touch me constantly because I looked strange to them.

I think most Australians are deeply, irreversibly socially entwined no matter what our backgrounds – that’s partly why it’s a great country. However, some must integrate very consciously and make a real effort to get along with, and understand, Australian culture. Like my own dear NESB dad knows very well, he had to leave behind some of his own foreign behaviour and cultural prejudices where they best belonged - overseas.

I would agree to a point about the Lebanese problem, but I have some Lebanese friends, Egyptian, Iranian, one thing in common, they are hard working Australians- no they are not parasites, nor are they Moslem.
One has a business, Fuel station, which he has owned and ran for 5 months: But has been robed 25 or so odd times , broken into 7 times, credit card fraud 6 times, and drive off 21 odd times, all have been reported to police, only on 10 occasions police attended, other times not interested. And this is defending Private property rights?
One thing in common , CVR footage shows a 100% Middle Eastern strike rate, and also common , Nil closure and nil attendance, so Is this a Democratic Country or are we just headed for the abyss, and Socialist Psychopaths dictate there is not a problem? Well if it was a young Anglo, be sure he will not upset the Propaganda regime, and he is an easy target, ethnics tend to fight back at police and shoot at them and tend to out number Police, so police move on: Yes this sounds familiar. Lets not forget about the Stalking of Women, following them home.
The Liberal PC left can rott in hell and if they need some help!