Dawn, Irfan Husain, 12 November 2005

"IN a recent article in the Guardian titled "The return of the caliphate", Osama Saeed argues that the restoration of the caliphate to unite the Muslim world is a desirable goal. In support of his argument, he cites the success of the European Union and the United States in forging political and economic unions.
He conveniently forgets that both his examples are secular entities, whereas the caliph derived his authority from his designation as God's vice-regent on earth. He also glosses over the inconvenient history of the caliphate which saw much intrigue and bloodshed. Indeed, after the sack of Baghdad by Halaku in 1258, the reigning caliph Khalifa Mustasim was killed, and his surviving Abbasid relatives sought refuge in Cairo. His uncle was appointed caliph in the Mamluk capital....."
At: http://www.dawn.com/weekly/mazdak/mazdak.htm

Daily Times, Mahathir bin Mohamad, 11 November 2005
"Many Muslims still condemn the founder of modern Turkey, Mustafa Kamal, because he tried to modernise his country. But would Turkey be Muslim today without Ataturk? Mustafa Kamal's clear-sightedness saved Islam in Turkey and saved Turkey for Islam. Children often play a game where they sit in a circle. One whispers something to his neighbour, who then whispers that information to the next child, and so on, around the circle. By the time the last child whispers the information to the first, it is totally different from what was originally said. Something like that seems to have happened within Islam. The Prophet of Islam, Muhammad, brought one - and only one - religion. Yet today we have perhaps a thousand religions that all claim to be Islam...."
At: http://www.dailytimes.com.pk/print.asp?page=2005\11\11\story_11-11-2005_pg3_

rancitas,
thanks for the term 'cultural suprematism'. I found your post old post.
fair enough too!
cheers,
t 1 f-o d e

rancidas
I have no idea who Redneck is, but I would sure like to shake his hand.
Your grovelling dhimmitude is where the trouble starts. Your post proves what? That you're an uninformed twat.
I read what you said (my, I seem to have touched a nerve).
My diatribe doesn't sound like that of Muslim/Redneck rabble-rouser.

F_H
Glad to see that apparently I'm responsible for turning you into a gibbering ninny.

Themistocles, Redneck, Kacktus, Leigh etc. Keep up the excellent work.

Shoshona

Having talked with a number of health care professionals, they tell me that FGM is present here, among Australian born citizens, there's even a government 'task force' to 'deal' with it.

Guess which religion these girls belong to?

I know Irfan it's off topic.

Skid Marx,

I was trying to establish a dialogue for a while, I only mirrored your behaviour for a posting to show you yourself, obviousley you didn't like it.

And whats with the 'handing over statement' to the other club members? Are you part of a secret club (sounds you gave up on Judo Christian stuff, don't worry I never understood IBM on demand too..)
One propagandist down! one down!requires medevac..

At least Kaktuz and Boaz are consistent propagandist. I prefer a broken disc to a screeeky disc.

Carnifex,

I had a question in my mind since your posting saying your experience working with Muslims was all not so good.

Until I read your posting about ML, justifying lies, deception, drugs, because 'she is not really harming anyone'.

Well, people usually mix with friends who resemble them. If you didn't like what you saw in your Muslims friends, its likely something you don't like about yourself as well.

Skid Marx – Redneck is the person who says things like: “The west knows how to slaughter it’s enemies like civilised people.” You’re aligned with that.
I have some challenges for you Skid? First, if my blog is so uninformed, just refute my points. Not just deny but refute . Incidentally, no one has ever refuted my idea re: cultural suprematism.
Explain to me please what is grovelling about my blog. Exactly. Some of the strongest, intelligent and bravest people I know speak their piece quietly and without malice. You don’t.
Yes you have touched a nerve. I think your intent is to be malicious. (No consequences make S.M. very naughty girl) Self-respecting folk like to be spoken to sensibily.
By exchanging a few words and sending your diatribe back at you, I have proven that you agitate like a terrorist propagandist (by stereotyping and demonising others). I have also gone some way towards showing that you and your mob are cultural and racial supremacists in the sense (the are positive applications) that you only see the negatives in others’ of difference.
Look at your childish attitudes towards others. Most psychologist will tell you that folk rile the hardest against the things in others that they loathe in themselves - so you feel that your are challenged in most areas.
Skid Marx I have read your stuff and usually switch off because it is irrelevant and unhelpful. Let’s say all of a sudden everyone agreed with you –what then? Your mono-culture of Christians whose history is no better than the one you loathe.
You say I am repetitious - now that is beach ball calling the tennis ball bouncy, bouncy,bouncy,bouncy,bouncy,bouncy.
I also think you need to explain (listening moderators?) what exactly you mean when you refer to Rancitas as a “twat” and relevance. I once wrote, to prove a point, F:)U :) C:) and so on until I spelt out a word regarded as a profanity. I was banned . If I set another foot wrong, I am out forever. I think the moderators have low standards, like you, here.