Philo, I spent a lot of the 50's in central Aus, Nth Queens, west NSW and was a witness to how the missionaries treated the koories.

During the 60's I spent a lot of time in Sabah, Sarawak, Malaya, Papua, and the Indonesian archipelago and again witnessed how missionaries treated the indigenous there. With respect philo, when the debauched Christan western culture invaded this country, the life span of indigenous people ranged between 68 and 82, depending on the environment they lived in.

Under the care of christian missionaries, it rapidly declined and in 1953, it was around 39 years of age. It has improved, but only slightly. They had no one to protect them from the zealous debauched christians, who used threats and forced them to abandon the way of life they had followed successfully for many thousands of years, in the name of making them moral god fearing slaves.

I saw my parents many times have heated arguments with the missionaries over their treatment of the Koories under their so called care and then reporting them. Nothing was done as the churches had ultimate control, but if you wish to see the evidence, it is all there in the government archives, reports, photo's.

If only the Koories had anti terrorist laws back then, but the religious wouldn't have listened, they never do. They just try to run rough shod over everyone and everything in their blind haste to get nowhere.

After all the religious have been going round in the same circle for the last couple of thousand years, and they have only achieved war and almost the destruction of the planet. I am sure that your god would approve of that as a stunning success. Good job, you live up to your reputation very well. The religious have and continue to show the world where they have stood all along and it ain't nice.

Yes. Becoming an Australian citizen should mean loving the australian culture, and our heritage and respect for our values...but how can this possibly happenwhen there is so much hatred of new-comers to this county? Those spreading hate need to accept that Australia cannot sustain a "white australia" policy for ever. Gang rape of australian girls (or any girls) by lebanese is an atrocity. So is the gang rape of australian girls by australian men. We all know (sadly) that gang rape happens in most cultures, not just lebanese. Therefore you can't state that only lebanese men would do it. Re Holland - I've been there..the sentiment regarding the influx from arab countries was that it was too much too soon, and it is difficult for the dutch to get used to it. That's understandable because we all resist change. The assimilation of different cultures into this country can only happen with a long, staged approach, the first step of which is education, both for us and the newcomers. How to deal with the extremists? Some of your sentiments are as extreme as the terrorists. They're both ugly to me.

lisamaree - it is the liberalists who are the highest enemy of Australia - it is the liberalists who use Australian law to protect those who hate Australia.

If you or your daughter were gang raped by Lebanese in Australia because you are Australian, then the fantasy world you tell yourself about would come crashing down - it is gang rape 'targeted' at young Australian girls because they are Australian, it is not as the general rapes which happen in all societies.

To state the truth about the path that Australia is on has nothing to do with 'hate' or a 'White Australia Policy' - indeed Australia is a richer place for peoples of all 'colours' who have come and contributed to society -

Australia is a beautiful spectrum of cultures.

I do not know of 'hatred of new comers', but I do know of the hatred that some particular new comers have for Australian society and values - and it is Islam.

Lebanese have no love for Australia, and do not consider themselves to be Australian.

The question of Islam in Australian society will not be answered by 'education' - Islam educates that Australians are 'Infidels'.

The liberalists in Australia - who live up in the 'ivory towers' - have not seen the hate and terror in society for us Australians. It is not about intolerance or lack of education - it is about the conduct of Islamic culture targeted against us which we see in our society everyday.

Our sentiments are 'realist' sentiments out of love for Australia.

Thanks Thor, God of Thunder, I hear you roar. I don't want to argue linguistics with you. Why do you keep generalising about lebanese? It's as ignorant as americans thinking there's kangaroos on the harbour bridge! I think any girl would feel violated if she were raped, either by a lebanese or australian or whatever. Maybe you have had a personal experience? if so, I would understand.

I said "hatred of new comers" because that was my interpretation of some of the posts on this thread. I also said educate all of us. I also said it was a long process. However I don't have any expectation that you could be educated because you're going over and over the same ground and not just in this thread. Your generalisations about lebanese is uniform throughout. Go and eat a kebab. With lots of homos & chilli sauce.

Thanks lisamaree, you've reminded me of something which made me laugh years ago. A grafitto in inner Sydney announced "Even God hates homos". Underneath, a second person had added "Yes, but he loves tabbouli."

Lisa...

what you are observing (the so called 'hatred') is the very reason why it is imperitive to deal with such issues at a policy level rather than at a 'street' level.

You seem to be a kind person, sensitive and caring. You should be a nurse :)
But at the coal face, hard decisions need to be made, possibly involving some distasteful approaches (to some) on Immigration, school social studies etc.
I am adamant that 'race' or skin color should not be a factor in immigration, though some would not see it that way, I have no qualms though on the issue of certain ideologies, for example David Irving the 'holocaust revisionist' was denied a visa.

I take serious issue with Islam, (not Buddhism, or any of the many other 'ism's confronting us) and I would make VERY strict conditions for any Muslim coming to Australia. One thing I would do, is to make citizenship very much dependant on a demonstrated loyalty, and a sworn oath to Australia ABOVE ALL other loyalties, and that includes having them read portions of the Quran, which are in direct conflict with our way of life, and repudiating them in WRITING, with citizenship jeapordized if they infringe this with deportation a very real possibility if they go against this committment.

Not just with Islam, but for any would be immigrant, I'd make them fully aware of the Judao Christian/Anglo European heritage we have and outline all areas where this might conflict with their own faith.

The LAST thing I would do, is adjust our laws to suit them.
That has already been done in a number of areas. Can you imagine our Emergency Services having to refer to some little book about how to treat every race/religion they encounter in their work ? Its ludicrious. Its an insult also, and its HAPPening. They are supposed to give 'special treatement' to Muslims.
Its outlined in one of their operational manuals.

As John Howard said "We will determine who comes here, and under what circumstances they come" (a good call, no matter what ones politics)