Thanks Alchemist I did suspect you were a supporter of the likes of Venezuelan President Hugo Chavez.

The term "terrorism" as we see it in the West is foreign to how Al-Qaeda see terrorists. They see the opponents of Allah as the real terrorists i.e. the Americans who remove the covenant of shari'ah law of Allah from the nations under Islamic rule. Al-Quida have many sympathisers in the West who deplore the action of the USA in Iraq and Afganistan etc; and consider America the real terrorists in the world today. They believe they are administering the true justice of Allah upon a decadent society, not terrorising a nation.

The term terrorist has a different conotation in Islam, it means a wicked person who fights against Allah. What we see as terrorism they see as right and just upon an unholy people. So we in the West must be aware of the Islamic denial -"Osama is not a terrorist he is a true Muslim standing his ground against an evil Nation who will terrorise the people of Allah".

Philo

Thank you for your last post. Very informative.

The Greens Party are deceived by their opposition to USA's involvement in Afganistan and Iraq by their "No War" chants.

They attract the Muslims who express outrage at the USA, while accomodating the homosexuals agenda. These two groups hold opposing positions on same sex marriage. This is in contrast to the West who want a free and open secular society in Afganistan and Iraq who outlaw shari'ah law in its strict application. Application that would kill homosexuals. Muslims will use disenting groups in our society that will vacilitate their ultimate cause. They are masters of deception, as they believe Allah deceives the unsuspecting infidels. [Sura 4: 143 "God will not let the unbelievers triumph over the faithful. The hypocrites seek to deceive God, but it is He who will deceive them."]

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The situation you allude to, is one which will occur IF.... the goverenment does not take a pro-active stance EARLY.

A responsible government will not wait till things are volatile and bordering on out of control (Like UK) and then use the problem to whip up 'us/them' ism to prop up their own position.

No, what they will do, is identify trends in demographics and take action responsibly to maintain harmony before it leads to the types of conditions you referred to.

Boaz, did you actually read the article in question?

The situation is not one that "will occur, IF", it is one that exists right now in many countries. We have been attacked, if you like, by proxy (Bali), and our reaction has been as wildly unfocussed as that of any other country. If you read these pages as I know you do, you will have to acknowledge that there is a groundswell of us/them happening here, today.

Your pseudo-solution, "identify trends in demographics and take action responsibly to maintain harmony" is as unrealistic as ever - did you ever see the TV programme "Yes Minister"? That should give you an idea how long and how effective any government "action" will be in this situation.

Rather than "combat terrorism" as some form of separate, somehow mystical activity, we should ensure that we have fair and robust laws that defend our freedom (as opposed to the current trend to take it away at every opportunity) and the fortitude to enforce them without fear or favour across the entire community.

And that does not extend to legislating against headgear.