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Concerns about immigration should not be ignored : Comments

By Graham Young, published 15/10/2015

Growing unease about Muslim immigration should be a part of our political conversation.

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Dear Toni,

Riding around in fear with eyes in my back as if I'm a thief is not my cup of tea, it's also not good for the heart and blood-pressure to have that constant anxiety of being caught. And if being caught, the main penalty is not the money, but having to walk home all the way (holding the bike), regardless of weather and distance, or missing some important appointment because the police would keep hovering and not allow me to proceed on bike. Also the shock on being caught and having to face the police, that is when the adrenalin kicks to prepare for fight-or-flight, the blood rushes out the liver and it feels like a strong kick in the stomach!

As for selecting cycleways, I am not interested in riding for fun, but in order to arrive where I need to arrive, especially as Plan B if my car is broken, if there is petrol-rationing or if for whatever reason I lost my license.

For me it is not acceptable to be ordered to wear anything and it's not an option: I am traumatised by the army, having suffered for years as a conscript and being ordered to wear that thing (in that case to try preventing being hit by bullets and shrapnel) was part of it and brings me horror-memories back.
Posted by Yuyutsu, Friday, 16 October 2015 1:29:32 AM
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Suse, yes we can make laws prohibiting people of certain nationality entering the country, it's been done before and the best of all nations were still able to pass the test, only the worst were excluded. Immigration restriction and mass deportation is the cheapest and by far the most humane way of dealing with problem groups, Lebanese Muslims and particularly their Australian born descendants are a problem group, they need to be dealt with as a collective.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 16 October 2015 6:08:40 AM
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Bazz, as one American general recently stated the army that takes on the Sunni "Jacobins" will be required to leave in their wake only ruined towns and grieving widows, the Americans and their partners don't have what it takes to do that, the Russians, Kurds, Iranians/Shia and Lebanese do.
This is not a war the Muslims can win, the Anglo Saxon powers in particular currently have about a 30,000 to 1 kill ratio against Jihadists and we know what lengths they'll go to to win a war, ask the elders of Dresden or Nagasaki.
Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Friday, 16 October 2015 6:18:52 AM
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Yes Suzie, it would not be easy but it is a matter of survival.
All the niceties go out the window when it comes to that.
You will have more to lose than any of "us blokes".
They will not cut off our oil supplies as we do not buy any from them.
They depend on us to eat. If they do not sell oil they will have
major problems with their populations as everything is subsidised
including employment. I suggest you study Egypt's situation.

An interesting pointer to their mentality.
The government held a meeting of all state police force, Federal police
and other security organisations presumably to update on intelligence
matters and I guess some planning.

The Islamic organisations complained because they were not included !
Duhh !

That alone gives an insight into both their attitudes and intelligence.
Posted by Bazz, Friday, 16 October 2015 7:18:17 AM
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Jay of Melbourne speaks of 'mass deportation'.
You can't be serious?

I assume you mean we should round up all Muslims in Australia and deport them all?
Where to?
What if these people have been living in Australia for generations? Where do we deport them to?
What if they are married to non-Muslims? Are they deported too, out of association?
Where to?

And if these people wouldn't agree to go, would we force them at gun point onto planes, tie them down on the plane, and then force them off at the other end? The children and all?
They haven't committed any crime, so I think that doing this would be an act of terrorism on Australia's part, and I would strongly react against such measures.
Posted by Suseonline, Friday, 16 October 2015 9:41:10 AM
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Sus the paranoia is getting closer to gas chambers, and concentration camps.
Posted by doog, Friday, 16 October 2015 9:48:41 AM
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