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By Graham Young, published 15/10/2015Growing unease about Muslim immigration should be a part of our political conversation.
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Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 October 2015 12:31:29 PM
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Muhammad was a military leader, laying siege to towns, massacring the men, raping their women, enslaving their children, and taking the property of others as his own. On several occasions he rejected offers of surrender from the besieged inhabitants and even butchered captives. He inspired his followers to battle when they did not feel it was right to fight, promising them slaves and booty if they did and threatening them with Hell if they did not. Muhammad allowed his men to rape traumatized women captured in battle, usually on the very day their husbands and family members were slaughtered.
The early Islamic principle of warfare was that the civilian population of a town was to be destroyed (ie. men executed, women and children taken as slaves) if they defended themselves and resisted Islamic hegemony. Although modern apologists often claim that Muslims are only supposed to "attack in self-defense", this oxymoron is flatly contradicted by the accounts of Islamic historians and others that go back to the time of Muhammad. Their understanding of Islam comes from what they are taught by others. In the West, it is typical for believers to think that their religion must be like Christianity - preaching the New Testament virtues of peace, love, and tolerance - because Muslims are taught that Islam is supposed to be superior in every way. They are somewhat surprised and embarrassed to find that this is contradicted by the Quran and the bloody history of Islam's genesis. For their part, Western liberals would do well not to sacrifice critical thinking to the god of political correctness, or look for reasons to bring other religion down to the level of Islam merely to avoid the existential truth that this it is both different and dangerous. There are just too many Muslims who take the Quran literally... and too many others who couldn't care less about the violence done in the name of Islam Posted by doog, Thursday, 15 October 2015 12:44:47 PM
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In early September when the then Abbott Government decided to take in 12,000 Syrian refugees the Government made clear that most would be Christian and other non-Muslims.
But pressure from Muslim groups "Islamic leaders have lashed out at suggestions by the federal government to preference Christian refugees" http://www.smh.com.au/federal-politics/political-news/syrian-migrant-crisis-australian-islamic-leaders-label-christian-refugee-preference-as-bigoted-20150908-gjhvjl.html may have changed the Government's mind. Now the Turnbull Government seems to have forgotten the preference for Christians who are more compatible with the Australian community. Looks like Australia is getting a new wave of Muslims, from the warzone, in a rush. Posted by plantagenet, Thursday, 15 October 2015 1:14:32 PM
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Dear Doog,
<<Muhammad was a military leader>> The prophet Muhammad, peace be upon him, was probably a saint who lived in a cave, in isolation and never used a sword or led people. He certainly did not write the Koran. Whatever you read in the Koran and Hadith about him, his life and his teachings, is a later invention, no earlier than around the year 790, about 160 years after he died, when a deadly cult, now known as "Islam", selected about 3,000 pages out of 100,000 (that is 3%) containing stories and rumours of all sorts about Muhammad, in order to suit their own militant ideas. Muslims should find out about this and follow their beloved prophet, rather than the cult who stole his identity. (Source: Robert Spencer, who wrote many books about Islam and whose many clips about Islam you can watch on youtube) Posted by Yuyutsu, Thursday, 15 October 2015 2:22:52 PM
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And exactly how are Christians form this region and more or less compatible to Australian culture. Christians have much the same custom's.
Posted by Cobber the hound, Thursday, 15 October 2015 2:56:22 PM
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Hound,
You really are a total ignoramus. Posted by ttbn, Thursday, 15 October 2015 3:49:55 PM
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"ttbn, without government intervention and the purposeful importation of fully subsidised migrants or partially subsidised students immigration would quickly fall away to almost zero as it did in the mid 1970's"
If you are saying that our current immigration policy is crazy, I agree.
Hound,
Are you talking about the Old of New Testament. I am not a bible thumper, and have only read bits of it. The 10 Commandments are good enough for me, although I'm a bit lax on a couple of those.
If you are talking about the Old Testament, yes, there is some wild-man talk in that. But, the New Testament is different, and you will not see anything much like Islam, I think.
And, where do you get this idea that anybody wants to bring back the WAP? Race and colour don't come into the discussion. It's all about a vile religion and way of life practised by many races and colours. It is totally at odds with our society, and we are in danger.
Diver Dan,
Addressing Australia as "you" indicates that you are not one of us. Is that correct? Australia has "no hope" only if our apathetic politicians don't get their act into gear. Islam beat Russia in a Muslim country. We are not a Muslim country, and there are only roughly 500,000 thousand of them here. With a PM who actually knows about Islam, there would be no problem at all. Let's hope Turnbull gets stabbed in the back as he stabbed Abbott in the back - and sooner rather than later.