' I suppose your task is to explain to yourself where twelve million (not six million) Jews went. Uganda ? '

They went to Hollywood.

I don't know where JoM has actually denied the holocaust. He is skeptical of the scale, and unhappy with the sacred cow attitude to the topic. I'm inclined to agree really.

I have studied no history, but when people are so scared of even discussing or investigating a topic, even going so far as making it illegal to part from the party line I believe something's up.

I declare the death count to be 1,590,023.

The first casualty of war is consumer confidence.

Hi Killarney.

I haven't heard of Christopher Lasch’s concept of "associative coupling". But I have heard of Miranda Kerr and Erica Baxter, a couple of beautiful farm girls from Gunnedah who married "up".

Hollywood?

There's No Business Like Shoah Business!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aPuMRpM4xtM

“There’s No Business Like Shoah Business” coined by Abba Eban (an Israeli diplomat and politician)

http://www.theguardian.com/books/2000/jul/14/historybooks.comment
http://www.jewishpost.com/archives/news/the-holocaust-industry.html

I'd never heard of this phrase until 2 nights ago when someone I was talking to mentioned it.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Oslo_Syndrome
“The book applies psychiatric insights to the Arab-Israel conflict by arguing that Israel's reaction to Arab hostility is a corollary of the Stockholm syndrome in which hostages come to identify and empathize with their captors.”

"This phenomenon reveals great similarity, at the level of human psychology, to the response of children subjected to chronic abuse. Such children tend to blame themselves for their suffering."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kenneth_Levin
“Levin told an interviewer that he wrote The Oslo Syndrome to explain "why Israel's leaders, supported by the nation's academic and cultural elites and much of the broader population, were pursuing a course that was demonstrably placing the nation, including their own families, at dire risk."
“His thesis was on "Sigmund Freud's Early Studies of the Neuroses, 1886-1905."

http://www.oslosyndrome.com/

Cont....

Houllebecq, I don't like taboos because I'm an atheist.
I don't deny that the SS killed huge numbers of Jews, there's plenty of evidence that they did, I accept that tens of thousands of people died in Auschwitz, there's also plenty of evidence for that as well.
The people posting here who were youngsters when the Belsen film came out in the cinema were shocked by the sight of thousands of corpses and the horrifying condition of many of the inmates left alive after epidemics ravaged the camp. There's no reason not to assume that similar conditions prevailed in the other camps but the fact is that 60,000 people were found alive at Belsen alongside the 10,000 or so dead.

Jews were not the only victims of Hitler.

http://www.holocaustforgotten.com/fivmil.htm

http://www.jewishvirtuallibrary.org/jsource/Holocaust/NonJewishVictims.htmlhttp://

en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Holocaust_victims

Constance,
Those links don't work but the number of non Jewish victims is also a bone of contention, the reason the official Auschwitz death toll was slashed from four million to one and a half was because the hysterical accusations made by Polish communists after the war were found to be untrue. I don't trust any information tendered by the Soviets either so the number of Russians murdered in the camps is unlikely to be as high as they claimed and it's suspected that the NKVD probably executed a high proportion of the liberated Red Army POW's.
We also often hear about Gypsies and Homosexuals being targeted for extermination but that's not true either, based on the available evidence only a few thousand died, mostly from the same suite of diseases and as a result of violence from the Kapos and other prisoners.
The usual sentence under paragraph 175 was five months and it was only really men who'd done something seriously wrong, molesting boys, prostitution/pandering etc who ended up in the concentration camps, that said homosexuals had a rough time in custody and it's clear that several thousand died. A mortality rate of 60% is not far fetched but Homosexuals who survived the first month usually survived their sentence.
The orders given by Himmler regarding the treatment of Roma and Sinti internees contradict the idea that they were rounded up for extermination:
http://inconvenienthistory.com/archive/2014/volume_6/number_1/gypsy_holocaust.php
Gypsies are not known for their personal or communal hygeine in the outside world and one can only imagine the almost impossible task faced by Mengele and Hoess in keeping the Roma camp at Auschwitz clean and disease free.
Jews definitely were purposely murdered in large numbers by the SS because Jews were seen as enemies of Germany but it's debatable whether other groups can legitimately claim that they were targeted for the same reasons, racism, other prejudices or whatever.