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Auschwitz and the wisdom of crowds : Comments
By Mal Fletcher, published 30/1/2015Marking the liberation of Auschwitz forces us to remember that the general principles undergirding this forlorn place were supported by popular sentiment among some very learned people.
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Posted by dane, Tuesday, 3 February 2015 7:59:05 PM
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Dane,
If I recall the figures correctly the Germans claimed to have control over something like 4.1 million Jews in 1941 and reparation claims for around 4.3 million people have been made since the end of the war. So of the 4.1 million Jews left in Europe in 1941 12 million were murdered while only 4.3 million survived. What people don't realise is that the definitions of "Survivor" and "Victim" are extremely broad, a survivor is any Jew who lived for any period of time in the territory of the Third Reich or her allies and a victim is any Jew who died in those countries between 1933 and 1945. Posted by Jay Of Melbourne, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 10:49:42 AM
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Jay,
When, in 1941 ? Before or after the Nazis invaded Russia and Russian-controlled Poland ? As well as the Jews in non-Nazi-occupied Europe, in Rumania and Hungary ? So there's six million more Jews, just there. Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 12:27:46 PM
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Jay,
I don’t know why you’re denying the Non-Jewish victims of Hitler, including Christians and clergy? So Hitler’s invasion of Poland, a Catholic nation is irrelevant? Then followed by the Communists. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Invasion_of_Poland http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Katyn_massacre Putin: Soviet Government Was Mostly Jewish 80-85 % http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hu-GTj4slWw Dane, The whole crazy thing is that Muslims and Jews are all Semites, like cousins. …..Cont. I’ve never had anything against Jews but in the face of today’s extreme problems, I’m finding the more I dig, the more dirt I find. It followed on from looking into the relevance of the phenomena of Stockholm Syndrome, as to what is occurring in Sweden which now has the 2nd highest rape record in the world. Previously a low crime country. Hell, I have cousins who are of half Jewish descent. But as always, its not about the people themselves but the ELITES. And this is the first time of heard of their oral bible, the TALMUD. So what do the Rabbis actually preach? The Coverup of Zionist Organized Crime! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y3GMDcFOq0g http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Meyer_Lansky http://tabletmag.com/jewish-arts-and-culture/books/137476/slave-trade-black-muslim Jews & Arab's were united in African Slave Trade. http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yjpEkxbrWO8 http://holywar.org/jewishtr/08slave.htm "Rabbi [Morris] Raphall delivered a sermon entitled 'The Bible View of Slavery.' Raphall attempted to prove 'that according to the Talmud there is no difference between a lost ox, donkey, or slave, and that the TALMUD recommends turning over a fugitive slave to its master. The discourse of Rabbi Raphall which appeared in print caused a public stir. It was reprinted many times in the pro-slavery press. It produced a sensational effect coming from a popular rabbi who had the reputation of being a biblical scholar ... Raphall was right in his Biblical exegesis." [ROSENTHAL, J., 78]” http://forward.com/articles/179441/jews-mostly-supported-slavery-or-kept-silent-d/?p=all Black people talk about Jews http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0QbjELF-8kY A Rothschild Speaks - Listen Closely http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=x3EUzV5_TUs World War I /Destruction of German economy&culture /Communism/Muslims in China/Khazars Zionist Jew converts to Catholicism and exposes Jewish Conspiracy (The Jews control Freemasonary) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lEDPOPr7qiY What The Jews Did To Germany now in the USA http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xw2FhXZ9tiw Benjamin Freedman's 1961 - Warns America About The Jews (Zionest deals & Palestine intention) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aY90MSkQtrE Cont.... Posted by Constance, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 12:42:25 PM
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I suspect that the great majority of Jewish people don't take much notice of the Talmud, Constance; a bit like Christians and bibles, perhaps more so.
And it's definitely a written document: why do you think it's just oral ? Ah, so that sneaky Jews can pass bits of it from one to another without others knowing ? Devilishly cunning. I couldn't follow your logic: are you suggesting that Jews are to blame for any crime wave in Sweden ? Stealing babies, I've heard claims of, but that might take some substantiation. Good luck :) Joe Posted by Loudmouth, Wednesday, 4 February 2015 4:19:26 PM
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Joe,
I’ve never heard of the Talmud until now and it was written somewhere that is communicated orally. I’m only getting started. So it sounds like you know about the Talmud. Tell me more? You are misreading what I have posted. Who said I was blaming the Jews on the high rape counts in Sweden? I said it was due to Muslim immigration. Crickey. And the curious thing is that Muslims and Jews are Semites. Uh. Connect the dots. Why are we for God’s sake constantly reminded of the atrocities of the Nazis when in truth it is pretty small (when counting victims) in comparison to how many were killed by the Communists, like 50 million. You have to ask why were most of their leaders Jewish? Would you have any explanation for this? As Carl Marx was Jewish himself and you as an ex follower of Marxism, insider, you surely would have the goods on the workings of Marxism. Pray tell. Are you Jewish? Posted by Constance, Thursday, 5 February 2015 9:36:12 AM
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Your remark about 60,000 people being liberated from Belson reminds me of a quote I heard. I think it was either Finkelstein or Chomsky who said that there were so many 'survivors' putting their hands out for money that the Nazis couldn't have done such a good job.
What makes it all the more galling is that immediately after the war Jewish terrorists used violence to expel Palestinians from their land. It still goes on today.
I'm not exactly pro-muslim. I would stop all muslim immigration to the west tomorrow, but it is not hard to see muslim frustrations.
It is legal to insult their prophet but illegal to deny the holocaust.
Jews get money today for what happened 70 years ago by a long defunct regime yet Palestinians are regularly expelled from their houses today and receive nothing except a pogrom curtesy of the IDF every few years.