Loudmouth, true to your name, you are loudmouth no doubt....and foul mouth too.
"Sorry", you say? Sorry, you should be.

You are dishonest even about your claim of being an atheist, as it appears. For if you were sincere, what took you ages to say any thing against other religions?

All your objections on Islam and religion can be answered, provided you prove yourself worthy of decent discussion and you show your sincerity to understand.

If your mind is already made up and you have nothing but abuse for religion, so what is the point in discussion? It is not a discussion in such a situation, but a foul mouthing match, that no decent person could be interested in.

In that case, politely speaking, my response as taught to me is; "For you is your religion and for me is my religion"

Which means, in the language, you understand; get off my babck, please!

On an other topic. NC has rightly commented on Paris Shooting. Nothing but condemnation for shooting, of even one innocent.
There are two points to consider though. Firstly, this is amply clear by now, that desecration of Muhammad, peace be upon him, is hurtful to Muslims? Why people still do it? Freedom of speech? Where is their freedom of speech when it comes to denial of holocaust? They don't speak because there is a law against It. A law against hurting feelings of a people? It is in accordance with the universal value that no one should hurt feelings of the others. Why can't the same principle be applied here and the world saved from this recurring tragedy? And....in this age and time, when there is no doubt, that such hurtful acts provoke a few to take law in their own hands, yet some people must go and wave red rag to the bull. What wisdom? What motive?

Secondly, the game started through IS, is a long one. Acts of violence are necessary to sustain the public support in the west, for the anti IS campaign. Continuation of madness, therefore cannot be ruled out.

Deuteronomy 20:10-18

10 When you march up to attack a city, make its people an offer of peace.

11 If they accept and open their gates, all the people in it shall be subject to forced labor and shall work for you.

12 If they refuse to make peace and they engage you in battle, lay siege to that city.

13 When the Lord your God delivers it into your hand, put to the sword all the men in it.

14 As for the women, the children, the livestock and everything else in the city, you may take these as plunder for yourselves. And you may use the plunder the Lord your God gives you from your enemies.

15 This is how you are to treat all the cities that are at a distance from you and do not belong to the nations nearby.

16 However, in the cities of the nations the Lord your God is giving you as an inheritance, do not leave alive anything that breathes.

17 Completely destroy them—the Hittites, Amorites, Canaanites, Perizzites, Hivites and Jebusites—as the Lord your God has commanded you.

18 Otherwise, they will teach you to follow all the detestable things they do in worshiping their gods, and you will sin against the Lord your God.

Well gosh, I guess that settles it. It's there in and black and white in the Bible, and as a professed Christian I am solemnly sworn to adhere, to the letter, to every single thing it says in that bloody enormous book.

It doesn't matter how I feel personally - once you identify with any religion that has clearly defined and documented doctrines you automatically surrender your conscience, individuality and free will. If the koran says a Muslim should wage violent jihad, then all Muslims will follow that instruction to the letter, without quibble or question. And it's exactly the same for Christians (how could it be any different?). My Good Book says I must wage genocide, so genocide I must wage. What choice do I have?

Jonathon,

<<If the koran says a Muslim should wage violent jihad, then all Muslims will follow that instruction to the letter, without quibble or question. And it's exactly the same for Christians>>

The key point you seem to have missed is -- MCAdam & NC are claiming there are NO such texts in Islam it is all a concoction by the haters.

And another thing Jonathan--since we are quoting Biblical text here's a very app one in view of the Islams recent history:

Matthew 7:16
By their fruit you will recognize them. Do people pick grapes from thornbushes, or figs from thistles?

By their fruit you will recognize them!

THIS FROM MCADAM IS VERY TELLING:
<<Where is their freedom of speech when it comes to denial of holocaust? They don't speak because there is a law against It. A law against hurting feelings of a people? It is in accordance with the universal value that no one should hurt feelings of the others. Why can't the same principle be applied here and the world saved from this recurring tragedy?>>

Now you know what to expect if McAdam & crew get the numbers!

Quote: this is amply clear by now, that desecration of Muhammad, peace be upon him, is hurtful to Muslims”

McAdam, Have you actually read the hadith and early Islamic histories?
Tell me, exactly, how does one “desecrate” a man that murdered, looted, raped, tortured and enslaved men women and children?
How do you commit sacrilege against a man that is quoted as boasting “I am made victorious with terror”?

It would seem to me that the only people being desecrated are the memories of innocent men women and children attacked by Mohammad, a man you consider a “great moral example”.

Just because you and other Muslims have absolutely no ethical standards for yourselves, your god or your dear prophet, this doesn’t mean that I have to exempt Muslims from all moral principles. What is wrong for me, is wrong for you, is wrong for Abbott, Obama and Bush, and is wrong for Mohammad. Do you have a problem with that statement?

Another thing: don’t blame us infidels for these facts. The hadith and all early histories were written by Muslims, followers of Mohammad, and they were proud of his conquests and tactics. The fact that these included attacking peaceful villages, burning fields, plundering homes, torturing men, raping women and enslaving captives did not bother them at all.

And these things don’t bother you, either.

You really need to take a good long look at your heart and conscience, or you can continue to make excuses and blame others, like all Muslims. I wonder how you can say ‘peace be upon him’ after the name of a man that gloated over the murder of a pregnant woman, split open for offending him.

And then Muslims like you have no clue as to why Islam is so violent or why nonMuslims may dislike it!

PS: In case you don’t know, your dear prophet even attacked a mosque full of women and children – for ‘unbelief’ (what happened to the ‘no compulsion’ tenet?). Well, that is what is mentioned in the Quran and hadith. You must be so proud!