Constance,
"And this is where our dilemma lays. As it is against Islam to question your own belief"

What do you base this verdict on?
You are so sure of how I think that you don't even need a nod from me; a stance that only an ignorant person could take.

Of all the religions, Islam repeatedly asks the reader to reflect and more than once checks those who would blindly believe in and follow the ways of their elders.

See following verses in Quran encouraging reflection and knowledge:-

Verily, in that are indeed there are signs for a people who reflect. (30:21)

My Lord increase me in knowledge. (20:114)

In addition, are following verses urging reflection, reason and thinking:-

Thus do We explain the Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, laws, etc.) in detail for the people who reflect. (Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #24)
Do they not think deeply (in their ownselves) about themselves (how Allah created them from nothing, and similarly He will resurrect them)? Allah has created not the heavens and the earth, and all that is between them, except with truth and for an appointed term. And indeed many of mankind deny the Meeting with their Lord. (Ar-Room, Chapter #30, Verse #8)
He it is Who has appointed for you the night that you may rest therein, and the day to make things visible (to you). Verily, in this are Ayat (proofs, evidences, verses, lessons, signs, revelations, etc.) for a people who listen (i.e. those who think deeply). (Yunus, Chapter #10, Verse #67)
Does man think that he will be left Suda (neglected without being punished or rewarded for the obligatory duties enjoined by his Lord (Allah) on him)? (Al-Qiyama, Chapter #75, Verse #36)
Did you think that We had created you in play (without any purpose), and that you would not be brought back to Us?” (Al-Mumenoon, Chapter #23, Verse #115)

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To the rejecters of truth the Quran states: Or do you think that most of them hear or understand? They are only like cattle; nay, they are even farther astray from the Path. (i.e. even worst than cattle). (Al-Furqan, Chapter #25, Verse #44)
Do they not reflect? There is no madness in their companion (Muhammad). He is but a plain warner. (Al-Araf, Chapter #7, Verse #184)
Had We sent down this Quran on a mountain, you would surely have seen it humbling itself and rending asunder by the fear of Allah. Such are the parables which We put forward to mankind that they may reflect . (Al-Hashr, Chapter #59, Verse #21)

Please prove me wrong by quoting more passages on reflection in any other scripture.

Islam encourages reason and does not require its followers to accept gobbledegook like Trinity.

Clearly your current knowledge of Islam is inadequate.

"Waco was a cult, not a mainstream religion, unlike Islam. There is a big difference between 1.6 billion followers of Islam and a small group of people in stuck in Texas following an obscure cult."

You mean to say that all Muslims, 1.6 billion of them are terrorists?

Reconcile this with the following post of 23 December:-

"distinguish... between the Islamists that are terrorising the world and the everyday Muslim person that no one on this site has a problem with. If anyone is lumping all Muslims into one basket, it's you."

Now are all Muslims being lumped in one basket? and who is doing it?

Your claim that media did not immediately blame Muslims for Oklahoma Bombing and your defense of Inquisition are so far removed from truth, that it is waste of time to comment on them.

McAdam,

" .... There is a big difference between 1.6 billion followers of Islam and a small group of people stuck in Texas following an obscure cult."

Constance is obviously not saying that ALL Muslims are terrorists, only that there are 1.6 billion Muslims. Why do you read something into a perfectly fair statement that isn't there ?

In fact, Constance may not be suggesting that everybody at Waco, in that cult group, was a terrorist either - from memory, many were women and children who probably never touched a gun in their lives. Certainly there were many women and children who died there.

Is your tactic to divert discussion and deliberately make a simple statement - every simple statement - confrontational, in order to avoid having to discuss what people are asking ?

If so, it doesn't work, it is really tiresome.

And it doesn't help if you refer to people who raise questions as 'rejecters of truth': if it IS truth, as you assert, it is up to you to prove it, and not just by quoting slabs from the Koran: that may be your notion of truth, but it doesn't have to be that of anybody else who is not a believer.

I suppose Christians could endlessly quote slabs of the Bible, but that also wouldn't mean much to me as a kaffir.

Joe

Then there are the various references to the Prophet condoning or ordering stoning to death for adultery.

Do all Muslims accept that death should be the penalty for adultery?

Do Muslims wish to establish Islam as the world's religion?

We often hear these things said.

NC,

Quote: “Research Quran, knowing the high value it assigns to human life”

Haha haha - yeah, right. You do have a sense of humour. Anybody that thinks that Quran assigns high value to human life is either ignorant, drunk, a liar or a sick joker.

Some verses, please?

McAdam

Quote: “Islam encourages reason”

Oh yes, like telling the faithful not to ask questions? Want a verse for that?

As to the trinity, how about the Allah and his partner, Mohammed? Is that a duality or a binity? Why do you think the Quran uses the plural ‘we’ so much? Is it the “royal we” of Mesapotaneia or could it just be Mo and his jr partner, Allah, talking? -- After all, the Quran says that obeying one is to obey the other, and also that they make decisions together? Of course there is the problem that when Allah (Quran) and Mohammad (hadith) disagree, who do Muslims obey? Poor Allah.

Come on, Mac, have you ever seen a Muslim question the morality of the hate and slander against non-Muslims in the Quran, or the vile attacks on non-believers by your prophet?

So, Mac, if the Quran is so carefully explained in so many ways, why do Muslims make such a mess of Allah’s perfect words? Could it be they are about as clear as the muddy field where the sun sets? (according to the perfect Quran)

The only true requirements for a Muslim is blind irrational belief. That is what the shahada is all about. That is why the black flag was in the café that sad day in Sydney.

NC and Mac, you are blinded by the fanatic faith in an evil dogma. You are obdurate to the simple reality of the Islamic world. Islam, to you, is not what the Quran and hadith say, or even the obvious facts in newspapers or on the evening news. It is what you imagine it to be, and the suffering of men women and children is nothing to you, because you only care about yourselves.

Kactuz,

You are back with your characteristic words:

“Haha haha …. Anybody that thinks that Quran assigns high value to human life is either ignorant, drunk, a liar or a sick joker.”

Quran (5:32)

“ …whosoever killeth a human being for other than manslaughter or corruption in the earth, it shall be as if he had killed all mankind, and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind…”. Pickthall

gives an unparalleled verdict on sanctity of human life.

Of particular interest is the repeated emphasis in “and whoso saveth the life of one, it shall be as if he had saved the life of all mankind”.

On 31 Dec, I gave you the findings of the Encyclopaedia Britannica (EB) which supports views exact opposite of your medieval-views.

YOU DID NOT RESPOND.

Now that you have reappeared, let me ask you: Do you have research credentials more impressive than those of EB?

What are your credentials? Support your claim!

Then on 1 Jan 2015, I summarised an article from Karen Armstrong, which gave a picture of Islam and Quran an exact opposite of what you seem to hold.

YOU DID NOT RESPOND

I am interested in knowing the sources of your information other than the hate-sites.

Please note that:

Any passage from Quran that you can quote on “violence” WILL have one or all three of the following conditions:

1. The option of going to war is authorised in self-defence only;

2. The war must be restricted to the level of correcting persecution- -injustice and corruption (Fasaad - Arabic)you are subjected to; and

3. The armed struggle must have an overarching objective of restoring peace - and hostilities must cease if the other side offers peace.

You can still respond. Please quote verses from Quran which promote war in absence of these three conditions.

And please don’t bring up your age in defence, like before.
Please be wise: Not just old.