https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rekuWIKr55A

NC/McAdam

So you want us to believe that the Koran authorises the enslavement of women, but does not allow their owner to have non-consensual sex with them?

You need to understand that other people are not as stupid or intellectually dishonest as you are.

McAdam, how do your "corrected" verses of the Quran alter their meanings to mere references to marriage, exactly? There remains the idea of Allah supporting females, as spoils of war, to be used as their captors see fit, sexually or otherwise.

As for Leviticus, anybody who uses it to justify supremacist acts or crimes against humanity doesn't have my support. I don't see that going on in the world anyway, whereas it certainly is under the Quran. From Rationalwiki, "Jews think that Leviticus is the unadulterated word of God, as dictated to Moses on Mount Sinai. Unfortunately, the atheistic liberal modern world doesn’t allow them to follow all of these laws. Christians think that it’s the word of God, but point to 1 Corinthians 10:23–26 as exemption from following these laws. Interestingly, many fundamentalists still cite Leviticus 18:22 (kill the gays) as legitimate, even though they reject the book on principle. Other Christians accept all the laws with the exception of the ritualistic ones. That’s the definition of irony."

I don't care if you refuse to see exhortations to violence in your holy books while other followers of Islam embrace them. I do care that all followers of religion should commit to secular democracy ahead of any religious exhortation to do otherwise.

Join me in condemning any religious ideology that threatens secular democracy. Root out any that is perceived from without and within your religion, and put the State first. Is that too much to ask?

NC/McAdam,

Can you please explain why hundreds of Muslim women in Birmingham, UK are either attempting suicide or suiciding and being murdered by their own families because they have dishonoured Islam? There is a serious high rate of crime committed by Muslim men in the UK and else where. A psychiatrist in Birmingham who has worked in prisons there cites all this. And I have read about this sort of thing before. Here is Dr Theodore Dalrymple's inside view at first hand again, of his experience working with Muslim prisoners. Looks like you missed it. Can you please read it and comment? I don't want to overwhelm you but I do think they are very important issues. I don't understand how people could kill their own flesh and blood for the sake of honour. The women he says are so oppressed. And it seems if they Westernise, the trouble starts.
http://www.city-journal.org/html/14_2_when_islam.html

NC/McAdam
Obviously, a lot of your co-religionists don’t agree with your interpretation of the Koran and hadith – for example, the ones who have recently been beheading people, and killing and raping children, and blowing up public transport, abducting and raping school girls, and getting 13 year old girls to kill themselves by blowing up market places by threatening to kill their family if they don’t, and hacking people to death, throwing acid onto young children, slitting people’s throats, blowing up wedding parties, and so on.

My question is, what steps have you taken to explain to the many Muslims who don’t agree with you, that their views of the hadith, Koran, Mohammed and Allah are wrong, and that you renounce and condemn their views?

(No, my asking whether the widespread problem of Muslim atrocities has anything to do with their religious beliefs is not evidence of “hate” on my part, it’s evidence of hate on the part of your co-religionists. And your tactic of responding to questions about the connection between Islamism and Islam, by furious personal abuse, is evidence of hate on your part, so just cut that out and answer the question.)

Kactuz, "There must be 10,000 Muslim websites that say “ma malakat aimanukum” (what your right hands possess) refers to captives or slaves."

And then you go on to criticize Islam for sanctioning slavery. And at the same time gloss over the permissibility of slavery in Judaism and Christianity, ignoring the clear injunction of Bible, on the subject.
How is permissibility of slavery, Quran specific?
Ever seen the judgement of US Supreme Court that slaves are property? And what was the American Civil War about?
We need to be honest.

And then you interpret the meanings of "so that ye seek them with your wealth in honest wedlock, not debauchery." as rape and not marriage.

I believe you Kactuz when you say " I am certainly much older than you both". Yes Kactuz, very,...and it shows.

Please pay head to NC's advice and use your investment of time in study of Islam to see the truth, while you still can.
May God enable us all to see and embrace the truth, amen.

Luciferase
"Join me in condemning any religious ideology that threatens secular democracy."

I do not agree with you, but respect you for your honesty, as against those who are one eyed on the subject.

To others,
who have raised questions about violence within Muslim societies and heinous crimes committed in the name of Islam. Good questions...... we could discuss but the quota restricts my ability to respond immediately, please wait.