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Gaza: Hamas humiliates and manipulates world media : Comments

By David Singer, published 18/8/2014

Any journalist is free to report what they see in Gaza as long as it is coloured Hamas.

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Nutter

Thank you for explaining Ethnic Cleansing to us (twice now), my Google was apparently broken preventing me from finding the definition myself.
Now that you’ve graciously educated us yet again as to the meaning of the term, could you please elaborate how exactly “the systematic forced removal of ethnic or religious groups from a given territory with the intent of creating a territory inhabited by people of a homogeneous or pure ethnicity” applies to the Palestinian Arabs, given that over the last 65 years their numbers increased 5-fold in the West Bank and almost 25-fold in Gaza?

In less than a decade, Hitler managed to reduce the population of Jews, Gypsies and other groups I mentioned earlier by around 70%. Given another decade he would have finished the job.

Over several decades, Arab states managed to reduce their Jewish population by 99.9%. They have already finished their job.

Over 65 years, Israel’s “ethnic cleansing” of Palestinian Arabs resulted in an *increase* of the Palestinian population by between 500% and 2,500%. If we allow those wicked Israelis to continue their ethnic cleansing against the Palestinians with the same vigour and determination they've been showing to-date, in another 67 years the number of Palestinian Arabs will increase from the current 4.5 million to more than 50 million. Clearly if there’s one thing the Palestinians need not fear, it’s ethnic cleansing by Israel, don’t you agree? Or are you so blind with hatred that you cannot see the obvious difference between real ethnic cleansing and the contrived hysterical cries brought about by Israel bashers?
Posted by Avw, Friday, 22 August 2014 8:48:15 PM
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Lego

If me absolutely condemning ethnic cleansing means you see me as on 'parade around on the moral high ground with a chorus of singing angels behind (me)'... then that is grand as it is exactly the truth.

My answer to your question has always been:
I don't condone ethnic cleansing under any circumstance.
I have not changed that.

Your problem is you cannot accept that as the only reasonable answer a moral based person can give. You expect me to compromise my morality as you have. I refuse to do that. So your abuse is because my beliefs are different to yours. Isn't that the problem with the dark age mid eastern religions you support?

You want me to slither down to your compromised morality. I won't.

Ahhhh vdub

There is another example of your lack of logic or is it an example of your famous pragmatism. Perhaps a reading of Mathematics or Philosophy would improve your lack of intellect as shown by your ineptitude at logical thinking.

You are saying Israel isn't conducting ethnic cleansing because it is failing in it's endeavours in carrying it out.

Somewhat an illogical position, definitely an own goal and typically Israeli on more than one level.

Christ you are good for a laugh.

My god forgives you both and we both still love you.
Posted by imajulianutter, Saturday, 23 August 2014 1:14:15 PM
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Jnut said;
I don't condone ethnic cleansing under any circumstance.

Even if they are killing you ?

If the IS came and settled in Australia, you would let them stay ?
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 23 August 2014 1:37:24 PM
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If you condemn ethnic cleansing in every circumstance, Julianutter, then if a particular group of people began ethnic cleansing you and your people, you could never stop them. You could protest while they herded you and your people in front of the open pits where your bodies would fall after they shot you, but being exterminated while looking martyred is the act of a fool.

Perhaps you could get some breathing space by defeating them in battle? But if their birth rate is higher than your own people's, it is just a matter of time before they try again. And again. And again.

You could try assimilating them, but if their ideology implacably demands your people's extermination, then that is going to get you nowhere either.

The only options you have left are to agree to be cleansed, or cleanse the cleansers. That is the problem facing the Israelis, and it is just a matter of time before the Europeans and the Australians face the same problem.

Salmon Rushdie had a fatwa put on him by the Ayatollah Khomeini who ordered that he should be murdered. What you refuse to contemplate is that every non Muslim in the world has a similar fatwa put on them by Islam, and it is in all the hadiths, Suras, and the Koran. Accept Islam or die.

Now, I wish that the Muslims no harm, but that sentiment must be reciprocated. As far as I am concerened, they can live in self imposed ignorance and poverty forever. They can stone their women to death, circumcise their girls, kill their homosexuals, murder their apostates, marry little girls, have four wives, and chop each others heads off to their hearts content.

But they are not going to impose their dysfunctional way of life on me or my people by force. And if my people have to ethnically cleanse the Muslim ethnic cleansers, who openly declare their intention of ethnically cleansing my people, then I do not see anything wrong with doing whateer is necessary to defend myself and my people.
Posted by LEGO, Saturday, 23 August 2014 2:53:01 PM
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The post above by LEGO demonstrates why Singer must be given his marching orders.

Singer's mischievous game with the readership of OLO is leading to dangerous extremism such that the AFP should be called in to checkout the OLO readership and the political leanings of its publisher!
Posted by David G, Saturday, 23 August 2014 3:34:54 PM
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What some people on here do not understand is that we ARE at war.
War was declared some 1300 years ago on the rest of the world.
Convert to Islam or die !
They just bide their time between attempts, but sooner or later they
will make another attempt to invade Europe.
If they have oil money behind them it will be a major war.
By that I mean on the scale of the 1939-1945 war.

Best we have it now while they are comparatively weak. That won't happen.
No one will do anything until they invade Greece again.
They might well attack Israel again but if they are too powerful then
Israel won't wait to have their heads chopped off, they will turn the
IS into glass. Would that be ethnic cleansing ? Yes I guess it would.

What else could they do IJnut ?
Posted by Bazz, Saturday, 23 August 2014 4:34:27 PM
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