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Gaza: Hamas humiliates and manipulates world media : Comments
By David Singer, published 18/8/2014Any journalist is free to report what they see in Gaza as long as it is coloured Hamas.
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Posted by SteeleRedux, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 12:20:08 AM
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Dane wrote
"Compare those pictures of dead Palestinian children with how hysterical Jews get when someone insults them on a Sydney bus." I think that Dane has an interesting perspective that highlights the clear double standard that applies to Jews and Muslims. When talking about the "oppression" of "Palestinians", people like Dane create a false analogy by suggesting that this small section of humanity he calls "Palestinians" are the victims of a world wide plot by "Jews." The nasty Jews in the world are picking on this poor sub section of humanity that just happens to live in Palestine. A more accurate assessment would see him admit that this is a fight to control a territory that involves world wide "plots" by both Muslims and Jews. The Muslims will not accept the re emergence of another religion within Dar es Salaam, and the Jews need a country of their own to feel safe in. This is a war of ethnic cleansing where two sides seek to ethnically cleanse each other. Therefore, there is moral equivalence. I won't denounce the Israeli side just because they are winning. And I think that the Israeli method of ethnic cleansing by building settlements and gradually squeezing out the Muslims, is far more humane than the usual Muslim methods of using mass executions, gang rape and enslavement of female captives, beheadings, and crucifixions now on display in Syria and Iraq. Who is right and who is wrong, depends upon your point of view. My view is that however much I may hold some hostility to Jews myself for buggering up my country through multiculturalism, I much prefer Jews to Muslims. I consider the Jewish need for a homeland to be a better reason to control Israel/Palestine than the Muslim need to deny any religion from re-establishing itself within land that they have conquered through military force. Spare me the crap about "Palestinian children". We in the west have done the same thing to German children and Japanese children, because it was a matter of our dead children, or their dead children Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 4:09:25 AM
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Lego
The comments Graham Y made about ozzie apply equally to you. You are full of hate. Why do you accept ethnic cleansing, the killing of innocents and collective punishments as ok? Do you realize you justify retribution? Are you going to be consistent when the boot is on the other foot? Posted by imajulianutter, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 4:47:02 AM
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From Graham's comments"
"....However, there are endless programs on the events of WW2, which are painted in a simple black and white nature. What one side did was absolutely disgraceful and the other side was totally innocent...." True.....which is why folks should think twice before they say things akin to: "Well Hamas are firing homemade rockets.....Gazans deserve what they get in retribution." Has Israel treated Gazans fairly - or has it shunted them into a forty km long ghetto and blockaded them there? Why would a people who have been treated like that - who are powerless in almost every way that could enhance their situation - fire homemade rockets at their aggressors? Why, when Hamas handed over power, would Israel continue to frustrate and stymy agreements? As Graham says...nothing is black and white. Posted by Poirot, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 8:15:09 AM
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Without a doubt the most one-eyed, venom spitting posters throughout the threads have been the anti-Jew lobby (Yes despite the presence that they are only criticizing Israeli policy --if you scratch them you find they are anti-Jewish all the way through).
More often than not all you get from such posters will be little more than putdowns of the article writer or poster. Or in case of Steele, repeat,repeat, repeat of long debunked claims. However, I will make one honorable mention -- Poirot, who runs with the anti-Jewish crowd is sounding a liiiiiitle bit more even-handed on these last couple of threads. No doubt because I pricked what remain of her conscience with this comment <<Just a thought: how many times have you eeeeeeeeeever critised the excesses of Islam? I'm betting its a nice round figure ...like zero!>> http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=6527#194490 And I am happy to take full credit for her improved performance. Posted by SPQR, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 8:49:40 AM
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To Julianutter.
I am not full of hate. You have me mixed up with the average Muslim. I do not see ethnic cleansing as an absolute evil. It can be an absolute evil An example would be Ghengis Khan's edict that the entire populations within 500 miles of the Mongol Empire must be exterminated to protect his empire. But ethnic cleansing can also be used to separate two warring tribes, or even get rid of a tribe that really is a threat to the existence of a peaceful and progressive tribe. An example would be what Europe will face in the years to come as to whether it becomes Muslim or drives the Muslims out. Serbia has already come to face that reality in Kosovo and the Serbs are laughing at the Euros and Australia for our accommodation with a religion which wants to destroy us. I have already been a victim of collective punishments by people like you. I am a gun owner who was collectively punished by the Howard government for the Port Arthur massacre. My fellow gun owners and myself were judged to be untrustworthy and punished by having our semi autos taken away because of what we might have do with them. So save me the crocodile tears. I am a great believer in retribution where appropriate, and also forgiveness where appropriate. I am sure that the boot will eventually be on the Muslim foot because of misplaced tolerance, complete ignorance, wishful thinking that Muslims are just like us, immigration, and birth rate differentials. And I hope that you suffer because of it, because you deserve it. Posted by LEGO, Wednesday, 20 August 2014 7:36:17 PM
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As to supposedly targeting a particular mosque in order to kill reistance fighters this is what your lot of butchers got up to in the space of 6 hours on the Friday/Saturday got up to on the day he was killed;
10:30 on Friday, 08 August 2014, an Israeli drone fired a missile at al-Nour al-Mohammedi Mosque, - Ibrahim Zuhair Dawawsa, 10, was killed
01:00 on Saturday, 09 August 2014, an Israeli warplane launched a missile at Kamel Ghaben Mosque in Fad'ous area in Beit Lahia. The mosque was destroyed.
02:00, an Israeli warplane launched a missile at Hassan Salama Mosque. The mosque was destroyed.
03:30 an Israeli drone fired a missile at al-Qassam Mosque in al-Nussairat refugee camp. A few minutes later, an Israeli warplane launched a missile at the mosque and destroyed it. Three members of a Palestinian armed group were killed.
03:40, an Israeli drone fired a missile at al-Shuhada Mosque in al-Nussairat refugee camp. The mosque was damaged.
03:50, an Israeli drone fired a missile at Nayef Abu Middain Mosque in al-Boreij refugee camp. The mosque was damaged.
The truth is the IDF weren't targeting him that night instead they were systematically performing scorched earth on Gaza's mosques. These are acts of pure retribution on these hapless people by destroying their places of worship.
You think I'm angry? Damned right I am. Most thinking people should be. The IDF have delivered terror on a scale that should directly label them as terrorist deserving of our outright condemnation.