David Singer,

"If you want to put anything to me - support it with evidence."

Are you saying those pictures I saw and commentary I read don't amount to "evidence"?

That Israel didn't just go into and raze Gaza?

That all those dead children I saw somehow are misleading?

That the BBC didn't give minimal reportage to huge demonstrations in London for Gaza?

Unbelievable....

Mr Singer sir you have become an utter abomination and surely not fit to be given a public podium in this country.

You wrote;

“So Badran Senior's house and the horrific injuries suffered by members of his family takes on a different perspective.”

What god damn warped bloody perspective allows the justification for bombing this person's family? For seriously injuring so many of his children? For permanently blinding his son? For bombing his place of worship?

Is it some tenuous link to the Al Qassam Brigades?

From your link; “And it wasn't as if Macintyre didn't have a clue. He knew Badran was a policeman, and every decent reporter in Gaza should know that the vast majority of policemen have traditionally also been members of the Al Qassam Brigades.”

If you regard this action in any way legitimate then so must the planting of a bomb in the house of any Israeli policeman who also fights with the IDF. I do not.

And how dare you call me a Jew hater when you so determinately defile and debase the Jewish tradition. You sir are a blight on the Jewish legacy, in fact you are one of those rare individuals I do not even regard as Jewish. I hate what you represent, I hate the bigotry and racism that allows you to rejoice in the bombing of this man and his family, but most of all I hate the continued occupation and the toll of Palestinian children to feed your blood lust.

Finally I hate what my country has become, a supporter of a regime so determined not to find a resolution to this cycle of Palestinian deaths, of war crimes and war criminals, of evil.

Singer

I saw a word to describe your behaviour.

Shrill

I quoted the two FPA statements you published. One critical of Hamas and one critical of The Israelis. I showed how you downplayed the Israeli Attack Force criticism when quite obviously your own FPA quotes portrayed the Israel behaviour as many times worse than that of Hamas.

Now you try and slime your way out the predicament your foolish article put you in.

And you say I have no credibility.

Shrill Davy Shrill.

And mate calling people Jew Haters is only going to cause irrational people to try to prove you right.

You really are making things worse for Jewish people everywhere.

Ahhhh Spqr

At last you have found one of the 13% of Israelis who don't support slaughtering Gazan kids. Well done.

And get this point clear. Judaism is only criticized for the emphasis the current crop of Israeli Jews place on the violence and vengeance passages in their books. Just like the terrorist Islamists. It's just that the Israelis are currently better armed.

Moderate Jews and Muslims put emphasis on the peace and merciful passages in their books.

Sadly 87% of Israelis support the violence and vengeance on display in Gaza. I doubt very much whether 87% of Mid East Muslims are terrorists or support terrorism.

They probably support the Palestinians in their struggle against the blockade and the land stealing and the oppression. That sentiment now seems shared by a growing proportion of the west.

Ozzie,

'My God, I have not been following this conflict much, however after reading this thread I decided to google images for "gaza children"
How does Israel get away with some of the most shocking war crimes I have seen?'

Compare those pictures of dead Palestinian children with how hysterical Jews get when someone insults them on a Sydney bus. The scary thing is that they are absolutely serious. They honestly think the Palestinians are untermenschen who should be eradicated. Just look at Comical Dave's jordanispalestine.blogspot.com. He has already wiped them off the map. The Israeli armed forces are doing the rest.

#SteeleRedux

I repeat - Badran Senior apparently was not a Hamas civilian whose house had been targeted indiscriminately - as the media had led us to believe - which puts a different perspective entirely on this story.

That conclusion has seen you erupt into a lather of hatred and an unprecedented personal attack on me.

Apropos the Al Qassam Brigades:

"Khaled Al-Azbat, an operations planner in the Qassam Brigades, told Al-Ahram Weekly that the commander [Al-Deif]had managed to reshape the Brigades in the manner of a modern army, with formations and lines of command very like the standing armies one finds in the region. There are divisions ranging from battalions, companies and platoons to special operations forces to armaments units. He has even developed a form of military academy with a department for military studies, research and planning. That was five years ago. But 14 years ago, he laid the foundations for manufacturing weapons for the resistance and, specifically, rockets after it had become increasingly difficult to smuggle them into Gaza. According to Al-Azbat, Al-Deif took advantage of the Arab Spring period to engineer a qualitative shift in Hamas’s armament capacities, which Israel is currently targeting, “though it will never succeed in destroying them, no matter how hard it tries.” He also applied the lessons derived from the resistance in the war in Lebanon, and benefited from Iranian technologies in manufacturing arms in spite of international restrictions....

... The Palestinian scholar Mohammed Abu Shaar, speaking to the Weekly from Gaza, said that Al-Deif is the military brain of the so-called war council in Gaza, which is made up of most military branches. In addition, he currently commands at least 25,000 fighters. “Al-Deif remains unidentifiable even within Hamas circles, apart from his comrades in arms. This is necessary for security reasons,” Abu Shaar said."
http://english.ahram.org.eg/NewsContent/2/8/108498/World/Region/PROFILE-AlQassam-Brigades-Mohammed-AlDeif.aspx

Al Qassam is a prescribed terrorist organisation in Australia.

Stick to discussing the facts - and not me. It will do wonders for your blood pressure.

#Poirot

Israel has razed Gaza?

Shouldn't the death toll be 200000 or more?

#Ozzie

Can forget you having any objectivity after this exchange:

"Jay,
What I am saying is that in all wars, people get treated terribly. Again and again it happens. Later on, we usually have the stories told by the winning side. These will always always be biased. Certainly what the germans did was terrible. However, there are endless programs on the events of WW2, which are painted in a simple black and white nature. What one side did was absolutely disgraceful and the other side was totally innocent. I have a friend who's parent was in a concentration camp. They were not Jewish but as you know there were many other groups in these camps besides the Jews, often ignored in many comments. My friends sisters were killed by the Germans. Her parent has no respect for what the Germans did during the war, however she also has the same amount of distain for how the Jews treated many others around them. She saw many others die around her because the Jews would not help them. Because of how she saw the Jews acting during these times, she will never trust a Jewish person since. Basically I am saying what the Germans did was terrible, but what many other groups did was also terrible.
Now today, because of political correctness, people of Jewish descent appear to be treated unequally. If there is any legitimate criticism of the Israeli state or Jews, they will often scream discrimination in an attempt to squash genuine discussion."
Posted by ozzie, Sunday, 10 November 2013 11:35:54 AM

"It's no wonder that the Jewish community is so sensitive to criticism when people like Ozzie feel they can say what he has just said. I've tossed-up whether to delete it or not, and have decided to leave it there. It demonstrates just how despicable people in this ostensibly civilised country can be, and justifies me publishing David Singer as often as he wants to submit."

Posted by GrahamY, Sunday, 10 November 2013 1:58:03 PM