the three pigs..CHOSE..to build according to..their being
[yet even as pigs,,by being either pigs or pork..dont communicate easy..nor read..nor talk..

so of course them*[pigglets]..TRYING..
striving to be huh?man..did decide to build houses..like what adam got

anyhow we know the straw bail..didnt catch fire
we know the wood..was good..we know the brick..likely was stone

never the less.the story unfolded..for man
long after even the pigs forgot

anyhow..you informed us..they wanted a garden
but pigs being pigs..disected their fellow 'being'..according as their want

the first lazy..one
pulling off the head..[who built of loose straw]

the wood cutter cut it off..at the root..
but the gold digging brick builder..he got the lot

anyhow..being pigs all
they planted..the living..[ignoring] the seemingly DEAD..weed seeds

they did as they saw men do
watered the blooming lot

well..the DEAD flower stems/head's..turned into great compost
and some flower seeds fell upon..fertilized dirt

the living plant..died of..concrete poisoning
and its seeds fell..upon stony-ground..yet eventually the weed seed broke though

im told that this fable is true

its much longer of course..in the spirit realm
because..there the pigs..didnt all live at the same time/place
the story reflects our evolution..from the ignorant..into grace..

but im told..
the last words not written..in just their evolution

next come.. via the holy text..*the animal farm
and the pigs..yet further..r-evolution..unending

not the intended ending?
here is my leg..im bending..leg pulling defending

the moral..is..
it aint over till we ALL..stop trying

jonah..they
et..the whole whale tail
which of the tales dont have a lesson

the rhyme of the rosy
to the primate..of the rosery

or of a sinfull pie-man..meeting *simple simon

or alice..looking behind the curtain
of this so im told..they are certain
or the stoner/un-morphed grub..sitting in his mush-room..all alone

yet at one
with..him all alone too..yet amused endlessly..by his own loki

within..*

*vetting the expressing
of the mind-flux/flow..as it passes on..to..
the next number..one sun..[with/in..ALl..with-in everyone]

.

Calling One Under God …

.

come in One Under God …

do you read me?

over !

bingo partisan to won udder goat

don’t you need me?

oh/dear !

malicious in/cite/ment..NO PLACE.. in religion

nurtures fanatic/ism..cruelty/destruction..gangrene/s society

problem..deep-rooted in the very heart of..“wholy script(y)ures”

maximum/risk/DEATH..gotcha?

surgical..operation to ELIMINATE..IT !

MY GUESS: da..vid and I t/ake

wrist(twist)...ist..fist..risky/frisky/whisky

not geo/rge..gorge..oh/no..no/go

get..it one/odour?

whata/bout..jew?

wonder/good..wonder/bra..wander/here..wander/there..rwanda/everywhere

yes/or/no

how long..before you decide..

all the prophecy..still alive..

ELIMINATE it or DIE with it...?

that is the question

Bango/Mango QUOTE:

“if you lead your life the right way, the karma will take care of itself...”

have faith..take care..beware ..no/hair

you/r their !

“I should have been a pair of ragged/claws

scuttling across the floors of

silent seas”

time for tea...

oh/wear/in..out !

.

Bongo Platypus ...

.

Dear Banjo,

Touché!

Nevertheless,

>>planted weeds in the third little pig’s garden<<

So it was the wise “Christian” pig, not the silly not-caring-for-tradition-only-for-its-pleasant-outgrowths pigs who were worth the wolf’s (devil’s) attention, since he knew the other two pigs will anyhow not grow anything lasting.

Obviously, my parable should have said explicitly that the gardener-pig was wise enough not only to know that his plant needed its roots to grow, but also to distinguish it from weeds, whether or not planted maliciously.

Perhaps Jesus knew of your epilogue, since he warned explicitly: “Every plant, which my heavenly Father hath not planted (through the gardener-pig), shall be rooted up” (Matthew 15:13). This rooting up could also mean a long process throughout history that we all participate, or should participate, in.

Dear david f,

>> I guess we both enjoy the joust or we wouldn’t repeat it. I’m sure I would like you if I ever met you.<<

Thanks for the compliment which I sincerely reciprocate, although I do not see our encounter as “jousting” but - at least for me - as a way to widen my own worldview by incorporating into it alternative possibilities as an antithesis leading to synthesis - a less rigid adherence to my original position.

The problem with some participants on this OLO, is that they see any opinion inspired by an opposite worldview as an argument which they must defend their position against. This can be difficult if they cannot understand what the opponent said/wrote, so derision and ridicule is their only way to respond.

>> Christianity was used to justify slavery<<

As you know, some people used Darwinism - or social Darwinism - to justify racism and nazism. I do not think you can blame Christianity or Darwinism for their misuses.

>> However, I think it very good advice to avoid being judgmental and to confront one’s own failings.<<

This is something that is - or should be - built into any religion - Christian or not, Western or Eastern.

>> Athenian democracy which excluded women, slaves and those of foreign ancestry would be currently unacceptable.<<

Our culture has not only Greek but also Judaic roots, with a huge Christian content (and some Muslim injections), so also the concept of democracy, out of its Greek roots, evolved on this wider basis.

>>John Keane finds the cradle of democracy much earlier than Athens.<<

Maybe so, but the Greeks were the first to “market it” (like Apple were not the inventors of the mouse, only the first to bring it to the computing public). Anyhow, thanks for the book. A very quick check of the Preface on amazon.com brought me to this quote that I can endorse without reading the book:

“The belief that democracy is or could be a universal Western value, a gift of Europe to the world, dies hard”.

George wrote: “As you know, some people used Darwinism - or social Darwinism - to justify racism and nazism. I do not think you can blame Christianity or Darwinism for their misuses.”

Here we differ. Both Christianity and Darwinism have been used to justify horrible things. However, I don’t think Christianity or the other monotheistic religions have been misused. The intolerance in monotheism is explicitly expressed in the Decalogue. “Thou shalt have no other Gods before me.” Why shouldn’t one have the freedom to have any god or no god if one wishes? That terrible commandment has been used (not misused) to justify war, oppression and persecution of non-Christians and Christians of different opinions. There would be nothing wrong in that commandment if those who chose to follow it did not try to put it on others.

Matthew 28:19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost:

The above is the source of great evil.

I prefer the philosophy of Thomas Jefferson.

But it does me no injury for my neighbor to say there are twenty gods or no God. It neither picks my pocket nor breaks my leg.
-Thomas Jefferson, Notes on Virginia, 1782

One can also appreciate Clough’s take on the Decalogue:

Arthur Hugh Clough (1819-1861)

The Latest Decalogue

Thou shalt have one God only; who
Would tax himself to worship two?
God's image nowhere shalt thou see,
Save haply in the currency:
Swear not at all; since for thy curse
Thine enemy is not the worse:
At church on Sunday to attend
Will help to keep the world thy friend:
Honor thy parents; that is, all
From whom promotion may befall:
Thou shalt not kill; but needst not strive
Officiously to keep alive:
Adultery it is not fit
Or safe, for women, to commit:
Thou shalt not steal; an empty feat,
When 'tis so lucrative to cheat:
False witness not to bear be strict;
And cautious, ere you contradict.
Thou shalt not covet; but tradition
Sanctions the keenest competition.

continued

banjo..you have been..one of the..steadfast
along with george..and david..who have kept this/thread interesting

my..job..as ani-mouse..
was to be..as i said

..<<..by his own loki

within..*>>..

you sort/of..found your own..loki
with-in..but arnt vetting..so maybe karmic/venting ?

oug<<..*vetting the expressing
of the mind-flux/flow..as it passes on..to..
the next number..one sun..>>>

ok..a bit obscure..but
who isnt..*number one..[in gods eyes]

so..what i tried..to put into one post..[here]

eventually..became two..
then two more..[here]
veto/me
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0

but you..seem to/be
reacting to/the..4 in
peters arty piece..here
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15467&page=0

wheni say chist..immeaning the chist sprit..within all

you..<<[with/in..ALl..
that you..with-in everyone]

<<..Calling One Under God …
come in One Under God …
do you read me?
over..!..>>

when i read that..
i think..oh...its from banjo..the sen-sible one

but as i read on..
i..note you left out
filtering loki logic..from who knows what

here let me have a go
but recall..its by trying too hard
..to clearly indicate..what is..quote

here is what igot

partisan
to won udder goat
don’t you need me?>>..

oh/dear..banjo
we need many more like..[the old]..you

,,>>malicious in/cite/ment..>>..

there is no malice..in this site..
intended or meant

i agree..incitement
has..<<NO PLACE..in religion>>.

i agree..it..<<nurtures
<<fanatic/ism..cruelty/destruction..>>..
creating a ..<<..gangrene/s society>>

yes..its a
..<<problem..deep-rooted..
in the very heart of..“wholy script's..>>..

we wont/ever know..<<(y)>>..
yet time heals all wounds....<<..cures”>>..all

<<maximum/risk/..of DEATH..>>

death where is thy sting
let loki spring..the ..<<gotcha>>

?

a fine radical thought..
that indicates..you visited the hospital..[ingone west]

<<..surgical..operation to ELIMINATE.IT..!>>

recall they said..its just routine