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Is being a scientist compatible with believing in God? : Comments

By George Virsik, published 19/7/2013

Conflicts arise only when religion is seen as ersatz-science and/or science as ersatz-religion.

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de-sign..of..our/times..info
Compressed.into..obscure..*academical-abstraction

the root..of the/issue..[you-elites..use un-common..language]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341&page=0

from
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15341&page=0

<<..the instructions..that Jesus..gave
for..the editing...were as follows:

* If..what..you write..is so personal
that it..cannot benefit others,..take it out.
* If you take..down scribal errors,..correct them.

key-source/text
http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-history-issues/copyright/earlier-versions/

The editing..results in fewer..and fewer words.
[bigger and bigger destractions]..We go..from..68 words..(Urtext) to 47 (HLC)..to 34 (standard Course).

The/same ideas..get compressed..into a smaller..and smaller space.

One unfortunate..result of this..is that,./quite often,
ideas which you originally..had time..to digest,.now come too fast for..you to..adequately take in.

[EN-VISION}

More formal,..less conversational..and plainspoken.
Overall,..the editing..seems designed..to make the early Course sound less informal..and..less/conversational...If you read the first and last versions..of our passage above,..you can feel the difference.

For..another example,..a line that originally read,
"You and Bill..have been afraid of God,..of me,..of yourselves, and of practically..everyone you know..at one time or another"30

becomes simply,.."You have been fearful.of everyone and everything." (T-2.VII.3:4)

The early Course..now reads less like..someone talking and more, in fact,..like the loftiness..of the later Course...The question is, which is better?

There are times..when I prefer..the edited passages, but most of the time I prefer..the plainspoken original.

ME TOO..
http://miraclevision.com/acim/urtext/acim-urtext-2003-upe-ready-edition.pdf

I like being spoken..to in a clear,..down-to-earth way
in the early chapters,..before the Course lifts off into the stratospheric..tone of the later material.

Mostly unnecessary...If you will,
go back..and read the first version..of our passage.

Then ask yourself,..what is wrong with it?
How much editing..does it really need?..Does it need any?

I personally don't think..it needs much editing,..if any.
In fact,..I prefer it..to either of the edited versions.

Now this is not true..of all the Urtext passages./Many of them are very rough and..obviously need cleaning up...However, my opinion is that most..of the line-by-line editing..was unnecessary.

Think about Jesus' instructions.

He said remove personal/material..and correct scribal errors.
Does the editing..in our passage fit either of..those rules?

Editing..to make content..Course-consistent
(in the opinion of..the editors)

Editing errors

It would be hard..to do so much
line-by-line editing..and not..make an..occasional mistake.

Indeed, a number of unambiguous errors—changes..in the meaning of the original—have crept into the material..(I count 27 in the first two chapters).

Here..are..a few examples:[see..any link]
http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?article=15542&page=0
Posted by one under god, Friday, 25 October 2013 11:20:09 AM
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i have..struck..a wall..in my acim
http://www.circleofa.org/library/acim-commentary/text-commentary/commentary-on-the-little-hindrance/

weird concepts..like
[is there precedent david?

<<..According to A Course in Miracles,..the separation
lasted only a microsecond,..a "tiny tick of time"

..<<..This all happened..at the dawn of time, Yet,
if it is all over, why are you still experiencing it?

The Course's answer is that,..quite simply, you are trying very hard "to hold it to your heart,..as if it were before you still" (4:5).

Like any disturbing (or delightful) incident we can't get over, we began to ruminate on it, retracing in our mind each episode in its progression, "reviewing mentally..*what has gone by"

<<..What we are looking on right now, this instant, is a memory. "You keep an ancient memory before your eyes" (5:6). Like someone gone senile, we are living in our memories (5:7).

<<..Our entire lives, then, can be likened to watching an old movie on video tape. We are so absorbed in this movie that we feel like we are actually living inside it.

<<..We think that its ending is really up for grabs.
Yet, "The script is written" (W-pI.159.4:3)...The movie was shot and edited ages ago.

None of it can be changed,

Whenever we want we can hit the fast forward button. This happens by accepting a miracle, which allows us to jump past a batch of scenes and more quickly reach the happy ending (see T-1.II.6).

This theory of time can sound nothing short of bizarre. Yet it is not nearly as implausible as it sounds at first. The Course points to the very nature of time as evidence for its theory.

Time is composed of cycles, rhythms, repetitions; the cycle of the days and nights, the tides, the seasons. When we look closer at these cycles, we see that each one is composed, in essence, of a single repeating pulse of birth and death. Each cycle springs up with a fresh burst of life, and then sinks down into the deterioration of death.

so many..part stories
http://www.aboutadidam.org/growth/seven_stages.html

http://www.onlineopinion.com.au/view.asp?article=15612
Posted by one under god, Friday, 25 October 2013 4:44:07 PM
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i..like how the numbers fall
thats all

http://forum.onlineopinion.com.au/thread.asp?discussion=5995&page=0
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 1:37:28 PM
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(Matt. 24:29-31).

Those..who understood..these words..according/to the
sense..of the letter..have..no..other belief..than that
during..that latest period,..which is called..the final judgment,

Such is..the opinion..of most men..in-the church..at
the present day..But those..who so believe..are ignorant..
of the arcana..that lie hid...in every particular..of the Word.

For.in every particular..of the Word
there..is an internal-sense..which treats..
that..of..things-spiritual..and things..heavenly,
*not..of things natural..and worldly,..such/other..as are..treated
as..if/that..of..the sense of..the letter.

And..this is true..not/only..of..the meaning
of groups..of words,..it is true..of each..particular word.

#.For..the Word..is written..solely*..by correspondences,#
to..the end..that.there may-be..an internal-sense..
in*..every..least/particular..word..of it.

What..that sense is..can be..seen..from all/that/has
been said..and shown..about..it in..the Arcana Coelestia;.also/from quotations..gathered from..that work.

It is..according/to..that sense..that..what..the Lord says
in..the passage/quoted above..respecting..His coming/in
the clouds..of heaven..is to/be understood.

The.."sun".there-in..that is/to-be darkened
signifies..that-of..the Lord/in respect-to love;[heart;revelation]
the.."moon"..the/Lord..in respect to..faith;#.."stars"=..the-knowledge's..of good and..truth,.[or]..of love.and faith;

"the-sign of..the Son..of man..in heaven"
means..the..manifestation..of Divine-truth;
"the..tribes.of..the earth"..that shall mourn,
meaning..all-things..relating to truth..and good..or].to faith and love;

"the coming..of/the Lord..in/the clouds..of heaven
with power..and glory"..means..His presence..in..the Word,..
and..heart-revelation,.."clouds"..signifying..the sense/of..the letter..of the-Word,..and "glory"..the internal-sense..of the Word;

" the angels..with..a trumpet..and great voice"
signify heaven..as..a source/of Divine truth.

All this..makes/clear..that/these..words of/the Lord
mean that..at..the end..*of the church,..when..there.is no longer..any love,..and consequently no faith,..the Lord will/open
the internal/meaning..of..the Word..and..reveal arcana...of heaven.

The arcana/revealed..that..although..all these matters
are set forth.and described in the Word;.and yet many o..f those born within the church..refuse to believe in them,..saying in their hearts,

"Who has come from that world and told us?"
Lest,.therefore,.such a spirit of denial,..which especially prevails with..those who have..much worldly wisdom,..should also infect..and corrupt...the simple/in heart..and..the simple/in faith,[word]

it has..been/granted me..to associate.with angels
and..to talk..with them..as man/with man,..also to see
what..is..in the heavens..and what is..perceived..in the hells,

and..in..the hope..that ignorance..may thus..be enlightened
and.unbelief dissipated...Such..immediate revelation..is
granted..at this day..because this..is what is meant
by..the Coming..of the Lord.

[REFERENCES..TO THE AUTHOR'S.ARCANA COELESTIA.][heavenly secrets]
A "trumpet"..or "horn"..signifies Divine truth
in heaven,..and revealed..from/of..heaven

http://smallcanonsearch.com/read.php?book=hh&section=2
Posted by one under god, Tuesday, 29 October 2013 6:22:08 PM
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