Pelican

Well stated, as always.

A random psychotic ruins the lives of many people and somehow this is linked to "feminism gone too far."

As illogical as it is unbelievable.

Pelican, thanks for the line of sanity along these increasingly manic comments.

Errrm.. have you actually read the document, CompeterN?

>>And as for the killer being a Christian fundamentalist - that's not true as anyone who bothered to read what the killer wrote should know<<

There is an entire Section - "Christian Justification of the Struggle" - over a hundred pages of it.

He talks, on page 1425, about "the huge amounts of grace I am about to generate with my martyrdom operation."

Think about it for a moment. If those words had been uttered by a Muslim, about to embark on a killing spree, would you not - immediately, and happily - describe that person as a "Muslim Fundamentalist"?

Of course you would.

The only defence you have is the one employed by almost every christian evangelist I know - "he didn't follow Jesus' teachings, so he's not actually a Christian".

I suggest you start memorizing that line, fast.

Pericles:"It is appallingly bad taste to use other people's pain and anguish to push one's own single-issue-fanatic barrow."

Excellent advice...

Errrm.. Pericles, you imply that over a 100 pages of “Christian Justification of the Struggle” demonstrates that the killer was a Christian Fundamentalist.

But the killer clearly falsifies that implication, in fact he calls it a ‘LIE’. Pericles, he demolishes your argument in just two sentences:
“I'm not going to pretend I'm a very religious person, as that would be a lie. I've always been very pragmatic and influenced by my secular surroundings and environment."

Didn’t you read that bit Pericles – or did you choose to ignore it? Clearly the guy is not a Christian fundamentalist.

Pericles, my repertoire already includes the question: “Whose example and teaching did they follow: Jesus or Muhammad?” And you have already tacitly admitted that the killer didn’t follow Jesus’ teachings, though I’m not blaming Muhammad either. But thanks for bringing up that excellent point.

More to the topic, the kid had a lousy upbringing without a father and that's much more relevant than spurious claims that he was a "Christian Fundamentalist:.

is it possible to consider that Breivik, without undue influence from Christianity, Islam or a partly fatherless childhood, has made up his own quite intelligent mind; to terrorise and kill adults and minors as a means to have globally noted some 'important' theories from his 'manifesto'? That was his plan. He has carried it out quite successfully.

Evil thoughts, evil actions, massive tragedy. The lives of those who lose a child to violence are changed forever