I'm sorry, I missed this:

PALE:
"PLEASE "think of the Animals" and allow Antje to carrry on with her tireless efforts for the Animals."

As has been stated repeatedly, I'm a supporter of your efforts with the live export trade. It's your forays into other areas that have no bearing on that purpose that I object to. I've stated that clearly and succinctly before and it was the original reason for the carpark as I read the first post.

Antiseptic

If your really ~interested to help stop live exports” your welcome to email us on our site.
We will try to supply you with a small amount of funding to get you going yourself or start another group if you choose to.

If you would care to start your own thread on live Exports or Animal Welfare we would certainly support it.

We responded to questions asked in regards to funding and nothing more.

The questions been “consistently pursued “ how pale funds their work?


Graham Young has already posted a comment to Robert about how we use OLO.

The President also has reminded people` personal responsibilities`.

It is a `privilege` to post here and I wish people would respect that.

I feared you have come into this thread to flame.
In almost two years you have take not shown interest in Animal Welfare.
Nor were you involved in back ground of this thread.
I can’t see posts or threads you have opened on Animal Welfare.
Perhaps however I am incorrect.

In fact the only connection we can see seems your friendship with Robert.

I pointed out earlier when you chose to come into this thread flaming that there was a clear connection between domestic violence and cruelty to Animals.

Report from the RSPCA which addresses this-
http://www.abc.net.au/7.30/content/2007/s1949318.htm

If you care about Animals may I suggest Sir you stop your flaming.

Please leave the good people of pale who give up their time to also try to assist animals in peace.

I have never had a connection to you regarding this topic Robert has opened on this thread

I am also very busy !

The only other connection apart from domestic violence and Animal cruelty is possibly your support for Robert.

In hind sight I don’t think you have done him any favors and perhaps I find your interest in our organization just a tad disingenuous.

That seem to be the only connection but I hope you prove me wrong.

Don’t go and kick the dog now will you.

This will be our last post.

We think we should follow the sensible steps made by SPARKY
and walk away. We wont be back to read comments .
In hindsight perhaps we should not have tried so hard to defend ourselves.
Our only excuse is I guess we are only human and lack the forgivness of our wonderful Animal Kingdom.

We sincerly wish everybody well.

PALE: "If your really ~interested to help stop live exports” your welcome to email us on our site.
We will try to supply you with a small amount of funding to get you going yourself or start another group if you choose to.

If you would care to start your own thread on live Exports or Animal Welfare we would certainly support it."

I have no time nor the inclination to either start such a group or to take part in an existing one's activities. I am quite happy for those with such time and inclination to do so. Perhaps that will change in the future.

One thing that I have taken from this little encounter is that there is obviously little to differentiate the way activist groups such as PALE deal with dissent from the way their large corporate "targets" do it. The approach appears to be:
1. Attempt to discredit by smearing
2. Threaten with personal consequences and legal action
3. Offer bribe or incentive to drop the matter.

Not a very edifying display from PALE at all.

PALE: "We responded to questions asked in regards to funding and nothing more.
"

Actually, you failed to respond at all, but I don't mind too much, my intent was to make you think about the consequences of allowing the collective handle to be abused, which, as you are no doubt now realising, can be serious. Let's leave it at that.

Atiseptic
I said I would not respond anymore but good people who give up their busy time to help Animals are upset at being called mongrels.

Several of them are busy lawyers who proudly have their real names up there for all to see. Thats not a theat its a fact.

This is a case of I am dammed if I do and dammed if I dont answer the question purposely raised by Robert knowing full well we were unable to respond to them.
To respond to these question would take us back to the original complain made by Robert claiming we broke OLO rules.

We had only just joined OLO a members and we were told to take off the persons name we had been posting under and re register as pale.

We did this and the web master spoke direct with Graham Young and followed indtructions.

I dont know much about computers myself but probably because there are five or six computers the old tag came up as well. graham wasnt to know that either.

Robert drew this to the attention of OLO and we were banned. We have only just paid eleven hundred dollars hours earlier and it caused a HUGE upset with our members.

I think it was just a misunderstanding but of course pale wrote to OLO furious.
We were banned.
Several Months later Graham said Antje could post as PALE but ONLY! if this was never brought up on this forum again!

Robert knew this but still raised the subject of our tag!

That is why we have not responded!

We may be banned now for speaking the truth and answering your questions;.

Which I beleive was the whole aim behind the excersise. Robert KNEW! - Hes the one that caused the tag issue in the first place. He knew we could not repond!

PALE WILL NOT! BE CHANGING ITS TAG.
WE JOINED AS MEMBERS AND ANTJE POSTS> SOMETIMES MEMBERS SEND EMAILS WITH COMMENTS TO POST.
THATS NOT BREAKING RULES -
Enough of your games Robert
You cant run other peoples lives- or OLO!

I will leave you now with Roberts last words to us.-

"Live by the sword, die by the sword as they say."

R0bert
Posted by R0bert, Monday, 17 September 2007 1:39:52 PM