Pale,
I saw your bit about the veil and headgear and assumed that you were asking Belly to get Kevin Rudd to comment on that. But turns out you were referring to the method of animal slaughter.

Now there you go CJ.. referring to 'bar codes' as if I actually them as a reality in connection with the apocalypse... when in truth, while it always remains a possibility, I debunked that specific claim of those propounding it 'as' fact.

But..don't let the facts get in the way of a good 'BOAZ bash'...
There you go.. a slight twisting of information, in line with your character assassination drive. There's only one problem CJ.. 'others' can actually read also :)

PEPPY.. I do take your point on board about these whacky ideas, but the problem is...there are people in Australia, who absolutely believe in this kind of thing. Would you care to wager odds on this kind of belief being at the root of those currently incarcerated on charges of terrorism ?

The very existence of this thread, and the subject matter.. is 'Australian' and therefore is deserving of serious attention.

While it might be true that not all Muslims (like yourself) hold such 'colorful' views, the fact is, many do, and because those are in Australia, we have not only a right, but a responsibility to expose them. (Radicals)

If exposing radicals causes some discomfort, we can only express regret for this, but truth is truth.

This is a link to the letter of Sheikh Haron to the Prime Minister John Howard as you requested.
The letter was like this when a Muslim friend of mine recieved it , it has been cut, some parts of that are covered.

People Against Live ...
Actually the letter is not rude , he has respectfully written a letter to PM. My interpretation from the letter might have been wrong in the beginning. :)

http://www.msnusers.com/PDox/links.msnw

Boaz,

I have no problem with exposing radicals though why you do it on this site instead of reporting it to the authorities I don't quite understand. My problem is the way you exaggerate and stereotype to the point of being deceitful. You're not interested in the truth. Your type have been preaching the end of the world for 2000 years and no matter how many times you get it wrong you'll just keep going on like a broken record. For now the bogeyman flavour of the month is the Muslims, before that it was the Communists and and the Asians, and years from now it will be some other group you'll be demonising.

Peppy said: "Has anybody told the Europeans that their civilisation has "demised"?"

Most objective observers would probably agree that Western civilization is in steep decline. Demographic suicide (below replacement birth rates combined with mass Third World immigration), militant secularism, and a sense of civilizational self-loathing are collectively enervating the West. The same self-destructive trends are being repeated across the Western world - from Australia-New Zealand to North America to Western Europe.

Look at ultra-secular, social welfarist Sweden for example. One article speculates:

"Native Swedes, who live in a country that was one of the most ethnically homogeneous nations in the world only 30 years ago, will be a minority in their own country within a few decades, if current trends continue. Sweden is self-destructing at a pace that is probably unprecedented in history, but for the extreme Left, even this isn't fast enough."

http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/2278

Immigrants from mainly Muslim backgrounds are waging a campaign against the host Swedish population. This is evident in Malmö, the country's third largest city, which is set to become the first Scandinavian city with a Muslim majority in a few years. To quote the same article again:

"The wave of robberies the city of Malmö is experiencing is part of a "war against the Swedes." This is the explanation given by young robbers from immigrant backgrounds. "When we are in the city and robbing we are waging a war, waging a war against the Swedes." This argument was repeated several times. "Power for me means that the Swedes shall look at me, lie down on the ground and kiss my feet. We rob every single day, as often as we want to, whenever we want to." Swedish authorities have done virtually nothing to stop this."

Hi Peppy...fair question. Let me try to answer.

1/ I have reported various things to the AFP and have had a number of interviews with them over various terrorism related matters.

2/ I'm more interested in raising the knowledge base about what drives the radicals . "give a man a fish, feed him for a day, teach him how to fish and feed him for a lifetime". Understand what drives the radicals...and ur that much ahead of them.

3/ My company has done work for anti terrorism sections of the Police.

Seeing what is happening in other countries,

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9xypqB5eo WESTMINSTER CATHEDRAL....

Can you imagine how things would go if I took a group to Lakemba Mosque and ran a loud demo calling for bin Ladins death? I think the police would be racing for relevance quickly and trying to remove us for our safety..that alone is a danger sign.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VCqFtP52a70 "British" medical student.... admits to killing Serbs.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Lb8shFIkx78 "Mainstream" Islam and misogynism against women.(UK)

and the beginnings of it HERE with those on trial now and various Kalifah conferences etc.

I think that a broader knowledge of these matters is appropriate.