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An Open Letter To PM John Howard, From An Australian Muslim Cleric , Sheikh Haron !
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Posted by People Against Live Exports & Intensive Farming, Sunday, 26 August 2007 7:33:59 AM
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Pale,
To the best of my knowledge both major parties have an agreement not to raise migration and associated issues during election campaigns. I have been told this goes back to Bob Hawkes days. Posted by Banjo, Sunday, 26 August 2007 8:54:49 AM
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James Purser wrote:
>>The American public for a long time could not process the fact that it was an american who had committed such an act.>> What on Earth does that statement mean? Apart from a few loons like Gore Vidal, most Americans had no more difficulty processing the fact that an American had committed an act of terrorism than Australians had processing the fact that a Tasmanian farmer was a mass murderer. After the initial shock they dealt with it. By contrast it is interesting that nearly five years after 9 / 11 most Muslims are still in denial over Arab involvement in 9 / 11. See: http://pewglobal.org/reports/display.php?ReportID=253 Now there we have a case of people being unable to "process" facts. Posted by stevenlmeyer, Sunday, 26 August 2007 9:22:19 AM
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A DOCUMENTARY on AFGHANISTAN shown on BBC yesterday will reveal a major reason why 'we' 'BibleBashers' are constantly warning of the 'Islamic Bogeyman coming to get us'.
In that doco, they showed very mainstream Muslim families in Kabul and Peshawar Pakistan. A mother, who covered her face completely, has a little boy around 3 yrs old she named 'Osama'. Here she is, breast feeding him, and telling the camera that she hopes he becomes a Shaheed....martyr.. suicide murderer. "Then I'll be proud..I don't mind sacrificing him for that" she said. Can anyone actually enter into the workings of such a deluded brain ? Then...to cap it all off, she spoke about the glories of Paradise. 72 virgins for the man, and lots of drinks, and she was then asked "What is there in Paradise for the woman" she said "Oh..she gets to sit beside her husband".. ? WHAT?_?_?_? while he is continually ravashing recycled virgins,...she is 'beside her husband' and that...is "paradise" ? Forgive me for just about having a hyper coronary on this, but I'm almost speechless..no words can encompass the level of delusion and depravity of this version of "Paradise" not to mention the misogynistic nature.. but what REALLY blows my mind, is that the woman/wife is actually so far gone in her head, that she not only approves of this, but promotes it. The final straw is when they say "We speak of Islam and the threat of the unbelievers every day" ...and you wonder why we rant ? :) I know of NO OTHER religious system even remotely close to this. THAT is probably why we 'discriminate'. Posted by BOAZ_David, Sunday, 26 August 2007 10:00:52 AM
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Boazy, you're raving again. Of course we know that Muslims hold strange beliefs that are even sillier than those held by Christians, if that's possible. Personally, fanciful ideas about a post-mortem "Paradise" aren't much stranger than apocalyptic notions about bar codes etc.
Why don't you have a nice cuppa and a good lie down? There's a good fellow... Posted by CJ Morgan, Sunday, 26 August 2007 10:13:42 AM
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Boaz,
If you're in such a panic about the beliefs of a bunch of uneducated peasants who probably couldn't find Australia on a map then you need serious help. There are a great many threats. Ignorant peasants in the Middle East are very, very far down on the list. If you live in Australia you have more chance of being killed by lightening than by terrorists, so make sure there's no clouds in the sky before you go out today. Posted by Peppy, Sunday, 26 August 2007 2:03:28 PM
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Very funny. You knew darn well I meant Kevin Rudd.
I would have thought you would have appreciated that in place of the Milky bar Kid.
Come on Belly its your party. You want them to win dont you?
Do you have any idea how many millions of Australians would vote for him if he made that an election issue.?
This goes far beyond just Animal Welfare Groups belly and the public are not silly enough not to see it as a insult and an attempt to change Australia into islam in one fowl sweep.
So how about you do us all a favour and find out if Kevin really is up to the job and smart enough to grab an oportunity like this.
He really did miss a Golden Oportunity to nail Downer and Vaile and Howard at the AWB enquiry by disclosing the fact AWB are also live exporters.
I am talking about clever policies here belly. Right at the same time AWB enquiry was running 60 minutes did there fifth documentry on live exports.
If Kevin had dumped the truth that AWB were live exporters to the public -he most certainly would have grabbed the nations attention.
Costello has just sneaked something else through using the ACCC to gag Animal Welfare groups.
Its not only going to effect them but its the end of free speech in this country.
These are all the things that kevin could cash in on belly[big time].
Lets see if this man really is ready to lead.
So please belly as its your party can you make some enquires and bring to their attention the above issues.
If he doesnt care about Australia being turned into an Islam ritual Slaughter country and Costello stopping freedom on speach then i guess hes not the man
If he does you might just be suprised at the millions who will finally leave Howard.
Enough is Enough.