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The Virus, Suppression or Elimination?

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Utter rubbish, Joe. Morrison didn't save any lives simply because 99% of the people who contracted the China virus were never going to die. Morrison should be concentrating on "saving" the economy he wrecked, and saving his political career. My bet is that he will lose both. The only thing he has in his favour is that poor, lost soul, Albanese.
Posted by ttbn, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 5:40:07 PM
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Closer to 99.70% ttbn.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 8:01:35 PM
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The shining example the 'let it rip' mob like to point to, Sweden, seems is not shining as brightly as they would like. GDP is forecast to decline by 6% this financial year, with official unemployment to climb above 10%, both in line with Australia. The death rate in Sweden is 7.1% (5744 deaths from 81,012 infections) In Australia the death rate is 1.2% of infections or 232 in 18,730.

Fellas, find another shining light, Sweden is completely in the dark. Maybe Trumps America... possibly....nah!
Posted by Paul1405, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 9:03:57 PM
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Here's something Paul1405,
http://swprs.org/studies-on-covid-19-lethality/
Stop with the hysterical, scaremongering, nonsense figures, we've been through this (numerators, denominators, remember?). Clearly, the Swedes have not simply 'let it rip', unless your definition of not doing so is solely focussed on the state shutting down citizen's lives for weeks on end.

I get that you like the elimination pathway to nowhere, it quite possibly even suits your personal economic or social situation for all I know, but you don't get to choose spurious 'facts' on infection fatality rate to support your position. Clearly a whole lot more people than are tested for it have had the virus, based on antibody studies and with T-cell immunity now demonstrated, so hugely raising the denominator.

You should grasp that it's not a simple dichotomy, lives lost vs the economy, but I guess it suits your position to keep it so, along with Loudie who is even more hysterical and nonsensical with his figures
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 9:44:33 PM
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5,646 deaths in Sweden. Around 240 deaths here in Australia.

So one strategy has cost 25 times, or around five and a half thousand actual real-life bodies, more than the other.

And it's hysterical nonsense to point that out ?

I think you need to see a shrink, Luciferase.

To repeat: Under Trumpf, the US is about to face disaster. Here, we have a problem which will cost us and last a few months, but will be overcome.

The test ? I would vote for Morrison, if I could, next election. If I was American, I would vote for 'Anybody but another Half-Wit'.

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 10:01:30 PM
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Loudie, your reckoning has 1 in 25 Australians dead without isolation or lockdown. Please explain this:
http://ourworldindata.org/grapher/daily-covid-deaths-per-million-7-day-average?country=~SWE
My son flew to Sweden Sunday week ago and is free as a bird compared to how he would be Melbourne where he has lived for three years doing uni. He had to be Houdini to leave, and I don't understand why citizens can't come and go at will. I have a second son stuck at home who can't pull the same trick and return to his business interests overseas. He has personal and business relationships there going to seed. He's having a breakdown over his entrapment as I write. The gov't did not say coming home, as it implored all Australians overseas to do, was entrapment.
Posted by Luciferase, Tuesday, 4 August 2020 11:25:56 PM
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