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The Virus, Suppression or Elimination?

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A VACCINE is our only hope.

The WuFlu virus is mutating and it is looking like it was an engineered strain, which probably means that it was intended by the Chinese as a biological weapon.

It won't disappear with any strategy unless we have - yes you guessed it - a VACCINE.
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 27 July 2020 12:12:53 PM
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There never has, & never will be a successful vaccine for a mutating Corona viruses. We have never been able to make a truly effective vaccine for the flue.

Elimination is therefor impossible. Treatment is the only answer, & that is more likely to succeed.

If only Trump had not backed the Hydroxychloroquine treatment, along with zine & perhaps vitamin D, tens of thousands of American lives would have been saved. But no, the Democrats, & other lefties could not allow a TRUMP success, so torpedoed the best chance for most of them.

We are seeing just how disgusting those Democrats, & others with the anti Trump syndrome, really are when the death of thousands is nothing to them, compared to their hate.
Posted by Hasbeen, Monday, 27 July 2020 12:32:24 PM
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'The WuFlu virus is mutating and it is looking like it was an engineered strain, which probably means that it was intended by the Chinese as a biological weapon.'

you mean the wuhan lab funded by Fauci and others Mr O?
Posted by runner, Monday, 27 July 2020 12:37:55 PM
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Dear Hasbeen,

The corona-virus is mutating, but not anywhere as much as the flu (which seems to have been already eliminated for this winter). Also, the smaller the numbers, the less mutations occur. There is therefore every reasonable hope to beat it in Australia. This means of course that we need to remain locked out from the rest of the world, but it is a reasonable price to pay until a vaccine or some other remedy is found - and has some advantages too!
Posted by Yuyutsu, Monday, 27 July 2020 12:47:01 PM
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Can you talk about 'maximum suppression' ? Elimination is probably impossible until there are very few cases of the virus anywhere in the world; ideally - as in NZ - none at all. But NZ is a fairly small bubble.

On the other hand, 'let 'er rip' policies, like that Chief Half-Wit Trumpf's, has obviously been responsible for nearly 150,000 deaths - so far - instead of the 10,000 or so that might have occurred if the US had followed Morrison's lead and organised a national co-ordinating response, then a (relatively) prompt and strict lock-down.

Unfortunately, strict lockdowns depend on everybody doing the right thing: it takes only a handful, perhaps just one person with the virus, for it to spread again very quickly: 2, 4, 8, 16, 32, 64, 128, 256 etc. Gatherings and people living in close proximity can do that.

Yet we get morons like Runner (have you got a death-wish, an End of Days wish, Runner?) who clamor for no lock-downs, open it all up ? Well, in the US, you might get your wish soon - I'm sure that the spread of the virus has a complicated dynamic, but it certainly looks like it's out of control over there, just as you might wish. So we'll see by, say, November, what has been the effects of 'let 'er rip' policies. God's will?

Already the health systems of US small towns are being overwhelmed, with ethics committees having to choose who will get treatment and who will be sent home to die (wouldn't you love to be on one of those, Runner ?).

So the US is a hell of a long way from contemplating the dilemma between suppression and elimination. Even here, health authorities have raised the issue of system capacity in Victoria, with health professionals flying in from other states. And the US has 200 times the daily new-case-load of Australia. If i was a Yank, I'd be trying to get smuggled over the border onto a safer country, maybe like Mexico.

So how did NZ achieve maximum suppression ?

Joe
Posted by loudmouth2, Monday, 27 July 2020 12:56:22 PM
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Yuyutsu,

No, sorry, Scott Morrison is planning to open up the international border before Xmas.

As he told the Victorians "Schnell! Schnell! Neine doona! Neine doona! Offen die Rand!"

And look what happened. Good on ya Soot!
Posted by Mr Opinion, Monday, 27 July 2020 1:01:32 PM
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